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It is very difficult, and expensive, to completely avoid these products (clothes and a phone being necessities, more or less, in our society). Not saying it's j
by i_haz_rabies 5y ago
It is very difficult, and expensive, to completely avoid these products (clothes and a phone being necessities, more or less, in our society). Not saying it's justified, but it is understandable that even contentious people give up when it is nearly impossible to know for sure if something was made by slaves. Which is a terrible state of affairs... this information should be easy to find.
- arein3 5y agoYou could buy second hand clothes and electronics if you care that much, but you don't. The author is outraged at the hypocrisy, without realising the value of diamonds is that they are scarce. If you can produce them artificially, they are no longer in the same league with the scarce ones.
- pessimizer 5y ago> You could buy second hand clothes and electronics if you care that much, but you don't. This is a thing that people do, so it's not fair to assume that the parson you're having the discussion with is a hypocrite.
- i_haz_rabies 5y agoUnnecessary ad hominem aside, second hand items are just as likely to have been made by slaves as new ones. The point is that our marketplace is full of the products of slave labour and almost no reliable information about it.
- arein3 5y agoYes, but at least you are recycling. Reminds me when they closed a china assembly factory because of online activism, and the chinese people there started starving, because they had no other income. They would gladly have their factory back. Also most of the help for african countries does the following: 1) There are 1 Million people starving 2) a lot of food is sent there 3) There are now 2 million people starving