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> Canada's brightest, healthiest, and wealthiest will just hop over to benefit from the more favorable conditions there after reaping the expensive taxpayer fun

> Canada's brightest, healthiest, and wealthiest will just hop over to benefit from the more favorable conditions there after reaping the expensive taxpayer funded social benefits I see this repeated often on the web, but I hate this saying. I work in engineering. I'm surrounded by bright individuals, both fresh and experienced. Saying the brightest people leave Canada implies only the dumb and at most the mediocre remain in Canada, which I find not only offensive, but also not matching the reality.

sattoshi 5y ago
There are certainly bright people who remain in Canada, but they usually have clear reasons that convince them to stay rather than double their salaries.
- smnrchrds 5y ago
  Again, you are presenting (In Canada AND Bright) as a rarity, something very unusual to see in reality. This is offensive to the many many bright people in this country and it does not match the reality.
  - ludamad 5y ago
    So long as we aren't talking hard stats, I don't see how one statement is incongruent or not. Companies found in places like e.g. Kitchener, Ontario because they believe there are bright people, 100%. They are still not willing to pay them Silicon Valley salaries overall (exceptions exist)
blaser-waffle 5y ago
Most of the Canadians I worked with in the US have gone back to Canada. Our Principle Engineer at my last gig did like ~10 years around the DC area and then pissed off back to Calgary to raise kids and settle down. Still works remotely for the said US gig. Plus have you ever been through a winter where it dips to -40C? Fuck that noise. I'm from the south and live in Canada and never though I'd miss bitter VA winters...
- smnrchrds 5y ago
  > Plus have you ever been through a winter where it dips to -40C? Yes. I live in Calgary.
  - theflyinghorse 5y ago
    We do have it good with chinooks, let's be fair.
    - smnrchrds 5y ago
      True, we are not Edmonton.

sattoshi 5y ago

There are certainly bright people who remain in Canada, but they usually have clear reasons that convince them to stay rather than double their salaries.

smnrchrds 5y ago
Again, you are presenting (In Canada AND Bright) as a rarity, something very unusual to see in reality. This is offensive to the many many bright people in this country and it does not match the reality.
- ludamad 5y ago
  So long as we aren't talking hard stats, I don't see how one statement is incongruent or not. Companies found in places like e.g. Kitchener, Ontario because they believe there are bright people, 100%. They are still not willing to pay them Silicon Valley salaries overall (exceptions exist)

blaser-waffle 5y ago

Most of the Canadians I worked with in the US have gone back to Canada. Our Principle Engineer at my last gig did like ~10 years around the DC area and then pissed off back to Calgary to raise kids and settle down. Still works remotely for the said US gig. Plus have you ever been through a winter where it dips to -40C? Fuck that noise. I'm from the south and live in Canada and never though I'd miss bitter VA winters...

smnrchrds 5y ago
> Plus have you ever been through a winter where it dips to -40C? Yes. I live in Calgary.
- theflyinghorse 5y ago
  We do have it good with chinooks, let's be fair.
  - smnrchrds 5y ago
    True, we are not Edmonton.