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The FBI approached him and offered to help him carry out the plot so they could arrest him. Would he have actually blown up anything if they hadn’t entrapped hi

The FBI approached him and offered to help him carry out the plot so they could arrest him. Would he have actually blown up anything if they hadn’t entrapped him? Who knows. What I do know is it’s not worth surrendering my liberties for.

WalterGR 5y ago
That's just one of many examples. As my previous comment suggests, I'm replying to a very specific part of the parent comment. "FBI says man killed in Missouri wanted to bomb hospital amid coronavirus epidemic" https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-says-man-killed-missouri-wanted-bomb-hospital-amid-coronavirus-n1169166 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-says-man-killed-mis...
- 8fGTBjZxBcHq 5y ago
  You should look more into the many other examples too then because a lot more of them are... well let's say the authorities are more directly involved than I can accept for a use of the word "foiled."
  - eindiran 5y ago
    Yeah, the pattern is always the same: 1. Reach out to some young, impressionable, and vaguely angry kid. 2. Radicalize him, then convince him to carry out some plot. 3. Arrest him when he starts to go through with it. 4. Hold a press conference about how you foiled yet another terrorist plot. 5. GOTO 1
positr0n 5y ago
Offering to sell someone C4 who is seeking explosives for a concrete plan, and then arresting him after he purchases (which is what happened) is not anywhere close to entrapment. But anyway I agree that a few arrests a year like this are not worth the surveillance.
- smokelegend 5y ago
  I agree not entrapment, but certainly suspicious how the fbi always seems to every 3 months or so, somehow miraculously save us all from a plot they created...I mean "helped" .... i.e. selling whatever to whoever on camera to make a bust... Seems they need to justify their budget request(s); truly what better way then to show everyone why their needed with another 9/11 reference of doom and horror to scare the masses in to compliance.

WalterGR 5y ago

That's just one of many examples. As my previous comment suggests, I'm replying to a very specific part of the parent comment. "FBI says man killed in Missouri wanted to bomb hospital amid coronavirus epidemic" https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-says-man-killed-missouri-wanted-bomb-hospital-amid-coronavirus-n1169166 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-says-man-killed-mis...

8fGTBjZxBcHq 5y ago
You should look more into the many other examples too then because a lot more of them are... well let's say the authorities are more directly involved than I can accept for a use of the word "foiled."
- eindiran 5y ago
  Yeah, the pattern is always the same: 1. Reach out to some young, impressionable, and vaguely angry kid. 2. Radicalize him, then convince him to carry out some plot. 3. Arrest him when he starts to go through with it. 4. Hold a press conference about how you foiled yet another terrorist plot. 5. GOTO 1

positr0n 5y ago

Offering to sell someone C4 who is seeking explosives for a concrete plan, and then arresting him after he purchases (which is what happened) is not anywhere close to entrapment. But anyway I agree that a few arrests a year like this are not worth the surveillance.

smokelegend 5y ago
I agree not entrapment, but certainly suspicious how the fbi always seems to every 3 months or so, somehow miraculously save us all from a plot they created...I mean "helped" .... i.e. selling whatever to whoever on camera to make a bust... Seems they need to justify their budget request(s); truly what better way then to show everyone why their needed with another 9/11 reference of doom and horror to scare the masses in to compliance.