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I know so many people in the bay who will quit if they are forced to return to work... There's no way people are going back to working at the office. I persona

• Vadoff 6y ago
  Why did you do it before?
  • daenz 6y ago
    Not OP, but sometimes if something sounds like it sucks but I'm unsure exactly how much, I'll do it just to see how bad it is.
• JohnJamesRambo 6y ago
  What are they going to go do instead? I feel like this is what everyone says to try and hope it stays that way. The whole world may not be able to work from home. All those people in the Bay may have a tough time with bills when they quit...
  • LinuxBender 6y ago
    Not just existing bills, but health insurance paid individually is usually more expensive. That has been one of the few things keeping me at work. Companies have incredible purchasing power with insurance and this usually also bypasses insurance companies setting a rate based on a persons health history. This is one surprise some will get when they exit the workforce early. I've heard that there are some non profit groups that also have group purchasing power, like some religious groups. Maybe there are other big groups that do this as well. Anyone know of other big groups that can get the same discounts as corporations?
• Swizec 6y ago
  > I personally used to commute 3 hours every day to get to work from SF Honest question: at that point why not move closer to work? Or get a job at any number of companies closer to home that are desperate for talent? The whole point of enduring SFBA rent is that there’s dozens of tech jobs at every corner.
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  • ben_e 6y ago
    With that kind of commute (assuming it's 1.5 hrs each way), OP is probably in the Vacaville/Fairfield/Davis/Sacramento area, where there are not actually a ton of great tech jobs. Some to be sure, but it's pretty different from SF.
    • gnicholas 6y ago
      OP says he's coming from SF. Must work in SJ or around 237. > I personally used to commute 3 hours every day to get to work from SF
      • baby 6y ago
        Menlo park
        • gnicholas 6y ago
          I live in MP, and it doesn't take nearly that long to get here from SF. Maybe Mountain View, on a bad traffic day. But nothing north of Palo Alto could take that long, IMO.
  • yamellasmallela 6y ago
    >Honest question: at that point why not move closer to work? Because everyone thinks this first which is why a 1 bedroom in SF is like 5k a month.
• kumarvvr 6y ago
  Is that 3 hours one way, or total 3 hours for to and fro?
  • gnicholas 6y ago
    Good point, since it says "to work". But I can't imagine anyone could live in SF and drive three hours one way. I would assume it's round-trip, and that it's to the South Bay. Netflix is in Los Gatos, for example. (But then anyone who's had NFLX options for more than a couple years can probably afford to have two houses in the Bay Area....)
    • Balgair 6y ago
      Anecdata: I know of multiple people that drove 3+ hours each way to work in the Bay. ~10% of the commuters I know there. It's not a majority, but it happens with frequency.
• skohan 6y ago
  That sounds terrible! I work at a nice office with nice people , 10 minutes commute by bike, and most of my colleagues are eager to get back to work, at least part of the time. I never thought I would feel that way - there were times in my life I dreamed of unlimited home office. But honestly there are things which work better in person, like solving problems on a whiteboard, or picking up on subtle cues in a meeting, or laughing with colleagues over a coffee. For me, I think 2 days/week in the office would actually be the preferable split.
• caseyf7 6y ago
  It seems like there is going to be a big generational divide where the older execs want everyone to come to come back, but the younger employees feel they were more productive and want to stay remote.
  • addicted 6y ago
    I’m pretty sure my company’s surveys were almost exactly the opposite. The older generation with their families, homes in the suburbs with the bad commute, and already established networks in the office have no interest in coming back, while it’s the younger generation that wants to be in the office.
    • danaris 6y ago
      I read the GP's comment as referring to 55+-year-old "older execs"—Boomers, basically—and late-20s to mid-40s "younger employees". Those are the ones with families. I can see a certain subset of recent college grads and young techbro-types who would want to be in the office so they can hang out with each other, but it's definitely the boomer and older gen-X crowd who believe that it's only "real work" if it's done sitting in a cubicle where your boss can loom over your shoulder any time he wants.
• amw-zero 6y ago
  And thank you for that. That will surely drive down supply of engineers and inflate salaries - a great outcome for those of us willing to to into an office.
• booleandilemma 6y ago
  I don’t feel bad for the person who chooses to work 3 hours away from where they live. Maybe move closer?
• LaserToy 6y ago
  You didn’t have to do it, you know it right? I’m really curious how it is going to play out. I’m a bit concerned that our salaries will be slashed, especially if engs from other countries enter the wfh market
• dokem 6y ago
  Until all jobs return to full-time on-site and there's no where else to go.
  • flukus 6y ago
    Not all will, the ones that won't are salivating at the chance of getting a significant competitive advantage.
• pacomerh 6y ago
  Yup, I did that. As soon as they announced at work we were going back to the office I started looking and got a remote job. Never liked the office life