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So where's the fork? I mean someone forked GIMP to get away from the dumb name.... HN has a pretty wide reach, but TFA was awfully long, I hope enough folks wi

So where's the fork? I mean someone forked GIMP to get away from the dumb name.... HN has a pretty wide reach, but TFA was awfully long, I hope enough folks will read this to perhaps coalesce a critical mass around a real fork, with legs, and a proper community.

Firerouge 6y ago
The article has a whole section on VCV's efforts to suppress forking > VCV has been trying to prevent forks both through legal and social means, so there’s no viable fork yet. > There’s MiRack, a fork of VCV for Mac OS and iPhone. Any mention of it within the VCV community is immediately deleted, and its author is banned, so it exists completely disconnected from the VCV community > There used to be VeeSeeVST, another fork of VCV for the VST plugin architecture, but it’s dead: the VCV project asked the author to discontinue the fork in June 2019, to avoid competing with VCV’s commercial offering > The last fork I know of is the Sonaremin, but it is better understood as a customized distribution of a VCV Rack build for the Raspberry Pi than as a fork
- elihu 6y ago
  Yep. It sounds like a fork at this point would probably be a good thing, but it's hard to get momentum behind a fork effort if mentioning the fork means being censored or banished from the existing VCVRack community. This also makes me wonder if maybe any open source software community should ideally be based on some platform moderated by a neutral party. Or at least that there's some mechanism to escalate censorship issues to someone unaffiliated with the project. One of the problems with reddit seems to be that the moderators of any given subreddit are basically monarchs
Applejinx 6y ago
I don't think that's how open source works, in practice. A project like this tends to gravitate around a single leader of some sort: I can think of several examples. That leader might very well be impolite or opinionated but they deliver a single communicable vision and other contributors tend to be neither able to, nor welcome to supplant that. I read all the way through, looking for the answer to the posted question, since VCV Rack interests me. Latest I heard about Andrew and VCV Rack, he'd got mad at Apple's M1 processors (presumably because he makes heavy use of Intel assembly code?) and shows no interest in developing for 'em. If Rack stumbles, I think it'll more likely be due to some personal animus of that nature, rather than the fact of Andrew being a big meanie. The role of a leader in a project of this type is to be, if not a big meanie, then at least a big definer of what the project is and isn't. This will always alienate some people. Does that matter? Depends on what they're being alienated about. I don't think VCV Rack is the right place for Aria, and I think she's wise to step away. Can't say as I agree with all of her points but then I'm not her so I don't have to.
drmr 6y ago
I'd call it `FreeCV`.

Firerouge 6y ago

The article has a whole section on VCV's efforts to suppress forking > VCV has been trying to prevent forks both through legal and social means, so there’s no viable fork yet. > There’s MiRack, a fork of VCV for Mac OS and iPhone. Any mention of it within the VCV community is immediately deleted, and its author is banned, so it exists completely disconnected from the VCV community > There used to be VeeSeeVST, another fork of VCV for the VST plugin architecture, but it’s dead: the VCV project asked the author to discontinue the fork in June 2019, to avoid competing with VCV’s commercial offering > The last fork I know of is the Sonaremin, but it is better understood as a customized distribution of a VCV Rack build for the Raspberry Pi than as a fork

elihu 6y ago
Yep. It sounds like a fork at this point would probably be a good thing, but it's hard to get momentum behind a fork effort if mentioning the fork means being censored or banished from the existing VCVRack community. This also makes me wonder if maybe any open source software community should ideally be based on some platform moderated by a neutral party. Or at least that there's some mechanism to escalate censorship issues to someone unaffiliated with the project. One of the problems with reddit seems to be that the moderators of any given subreddit are basically monarchs

Applejinx 6y ago

I don't think that's how open source works, in practice. A project like this tends to gravitate around a single leader of some sort: I can think of several examples. That leader might very well be impolite or opinionated but they deliver a single communicable vision and other contributors tend to be neither able to, nor welcome to supplant that. I read all the way through, looking for the answer to the posted question, since VCV Rack interests me. Latest I heard about Andrew and VCV Rack, he'd got mad at Apple's M1 processors (presumably because he makes heavy use of Intel assembly code?) and shows no interest in developing for 'em. If Rack stumbles, I think it'll more likely be due to some personal animus of that nature, rather than the fact of Andrew being a big meanie. The role of a leader in a project of this type is to be, if not a big meanie, then at least a big definer of what the project is and isn't. This will always alienate some people. Does that matter? Depends on what they're being alienated about. I don't think VCV Rack is the right place for Aria, and I think she's wise to step away. Can't say as I agree with all of her points but then I'm not her so I don't have to.

drmr 6y ago

I'd call it `FreeCV`.