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> agreed that it’s unusual Ok, well lets just go with that then. When people who do things like spend a decade in isolation, and then use that example in the

by stale2002 6y ago

> agreed that it’s unusual Ok, well lets just go with that then. When people who do things like spend a decade in isolation, and then use that example in the writings about clubhouse, well that is what I am talking about. There is no need to talk about a voicechat app, in this way, or take such a person seriously, as a normal example, of a normal opinion on a voice chat app.

zepto 6y ago
Why not answer my actual question? Why do you think they are insane? It seems simple enough. Also - it’s not clear how this piece is related to your earlier comments about Jesus and people having religious experiences. How are the two connected?
- stale2002 6y ago
  > Why do you think they are insane? Are you saying that you cannot think of any way or argument, as for why a person's opinion on social interaction, and social apps, would be invalidated in any way, due to the fact that they are an individual who chose to spent a decade in isolation? You really cannot come up with any reasons yourself, as for why their opinion, could be at least a little bit suspect, or why it could be OK to dismiss their opinion on these topics, given that they chose to spend a decade in isolation? Generally, when having a conversation with someone, and they ask 1 million questions, that they should know the answer to, my only conclusion that I will be able to reach is that they are acting in bad faith. > it’s not clear how this piece is related to your earlier comments You truly cannot think of any parallels, or ways, in which the analogy is related, between these types of behavior? C'mon. I know you can think this through here. These are simple statements here. I know you can figure this out.
  - zepto 6y ago
    What I’m interested in is why you think they are insane. Me guessing will not answer that question. Why not just say?
    - stale2002 6y ago
      You asked a dozen questions of me, and then the moment I ask a single question to you, you dodge it completely. C'mon dude. Stop. You should understand how extremely bad faith that is. Unfortunately, if you are unwilling, or unable, to state a single reason yourself, as for the issues with someone who spent a decade in isolation, might be at least a little bit suspect regarding their opinions of social interaction, then I cannot help you, and nothing that I say is going to be able to adequately explain anything to you, because you are likely acting in bad faith. Here is some advice for you. The next time you are trying to interact with someone about a topic, you should not act in such bad faith with others, as it is difficult to have a conversation with a person such as yourself.
      - zepto 6y ago
        > You asked a dozen questions of me, and then the moment I ask a single question to you, you dodge it completely. The single question to me being you asking if I can guess why you think the person is insane? My answer would be that you there is a narrow range of behavior you feel safe with, and that you find anything unusual to be threatening and so you label it as insane as a way to distance yourself from it. However this is just a generic guess that I would make about anyone who used the word insane without qualification. It’s not personal to you. That’s why I’m asking you the question - I’d be surprised if a generic guess is correct.
        stale2002 6y ago
        > My answer would be that you there is a narrow range of behavior you feel safe with, and that you find anything unusual to be threatening Alright, well you didn't give a good answer. Unfortunately, if you cannot figure out as for why someone who spent a decade in social isolation, might perhaps not be the best person to talk about normal social interactions (given that isolation is literally directly related to the question of social interactions and experience), then I can't help you. > if I can guess why you think the person is insane You can read my previous post/question. Do you understand how you have dishonestly just rephrased my question, in a way that I did not ask?

zepto 6y ago

Why not answer my actual question? Why do you think they are insane? It seems simple enough. Also - it’s not clear how this piece is related to your earlier comments about Jesus and people having religious experiences. How are the two connected?

stale2002 6y ago
> Why do you think they are insane? Are you saying that you cannot think of any way or argument, as for why a person's opinion on social interaction, and social apps, would be invalidated in any way, due to the fact that they are an individual who chose to spent a decade in isolation? You really cannot come up with any reasons yourself, as for why their opinion, could be at least a little bit suspect, or why it could be OK to dismiss their opinion on these topics, given that they chose to spend a decade in isolation? Generally, when having a conversation with someone, and they ask 1 million questions, that they should know the answer to, my only conclusion that I will be able to reach is that they are acting in bad faith. > it’s not clear how this piece is related to your earlier comments You truly cannot think of any parallels, or ways, in which the analogy is related, between these types of behavior? C'mon. I know you can think this through here. These are simple statements here. I know you can figure this out.
- zepto 6y ago
  What I’m interested in is why you think they are insane. Me guessing will not answer that question. Why not just say?
  - stale2002 6y ago
    You asked a dozen questions of me, and then the moment I ask a single question to you, you dodge it completely. C'mon dude. Stop. You should understand how extremely bad faith that is. Unfortunately, if you are unwilling, or unable, to state a single reason yourself, as for the issues with someone who spent a decade in isolation, might be at least a little bit suspect regarding their opinions of social interaction, then I cannot help you, and nothing that I say is going to be able to adequately explain anything to you, because you are likely acting in bad faith. Here is some advice for you. The next time you are trying to interact with someone about a topic, you should not act in such bad faith with others, as it is difficult to have a conversation with a person such as yourself.
    - zepto 6y ago
      > You asked a dozen questions of me, and then the moment I ask a single question to you, you dodge it completely. The single question to me being you asking if I can guess why you think the person is insane? My answer would be that you there is a narrow range of behavior you feel safe with, and that you find anything unusual to be threatening and so you label it as insane as a way to distance yourself from it. However this is just a generic guess that I would make about anyone who used the word insane without qualification. It’s not personal to you. That’s why I’m asking you the question - I’d be surprised if a generic guess is correct.
      - stale2002 6y ago
        > My answer would be that you there is a narrow range of behavior you feel safe with, and that you find anything unusual to be threatening Alright, well you didn't give a good answer. Unfortunately, if you cannot figure out as for why someone who spent a decade in social isolation, might perhaps not be the best person to talk about normal social interactions (given that isolation is literally directly related to the question of social interactions and experience), then I can't help you. > if I can guess why you think the person is insane You can read my previous post/question. Do you understand how you have dishonestly just rephrased my question, in a way that I did not ask?