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> their choice to isolate was somehow related to clubhouse > What gave you that idea? The way that it is related to their writing/blog post about clubhouse,

by stale2002 6y ago

> their choice to isolate was somehow related to clubhouse > What gave you that idea? The way that it is related to their writing/blog post about clubhouse, is that they put it in their writing/blog, about clubhouse. > The person who wrote that piece? Yes. As you noted, their choices are "unusual", to put it lightly. I am glad that you agree and that I have provided a good example, of someone who does "unusual" things, talking about clubhouse in this way. These are the people who I am talking about. The people who do "unusual" things like spend a literal decade in isolation, and then using their experience, in their writings about clubhouse. You asked for an example, and I gave you one. Glad you agree that I have given you this example.

zepto 6y ago
Can you say what specifically about this person leads you to say they are insane?
- stale2002 6y ago
  > leads you to say they are insane? You already agreed that their choice, to spend a decade in isolation, was unusual. If we want to use a euphemism, and it looks like I will have to do so given how you are acting, I'll just stick with that position, that you agreed is the case. Spending a decade in isolation is pretty "unusual", and you have already agreed that this is the case. So I'll just have to stick with the word that you already agreed to call it, given that you are unwilling to understand basically anything that I am saying. Both you and I agree, that this is pretty darn "unusual". And if that is the only word that you will concede describes the situation, then I guess I am ok with simply saying that their decisions are pretty darn "unusual", and we'll just use that as the euphemism, and the example that you asked for.
  - zepto 6y ago
    I agreed that it’s unusual. But that’s not the same as insane, and I am not using a euphemism. If you are using the word ‘unusual’ as a euphemism for insane, that’s not how I’m using that word. You keep saying we ‘agree’ but that’s not true if we are using the word we are supposed to ‘agree’ on differently. Do you think all unusual behavior is insane? If not, can you explain how this particular behavior is?
    - stale2002 6y ago
      > agreed that it’s unusual Ok, well lets just go with that then. When people who do things like spend a decade in isolation, and then use that example in the writings about clubhouse, well that is what I am talking about. There is no need to talk about a voicechat app, in this way, or take such a person seriously, as a normal example, of a normal opinion on a voice chat app.
      - zepto 6y ago
        Why not answer my actual question? Why do you think they are insane? It seems simple enough. Also - it’s not clear how this piece is related to your earlier comments about Jesus and people having religious experiences. How are the two connected?
        stale2002 6y ago
        > Why do you think they are insane? Are you saying that you cannot think of any way or argument, as for why a person's opinion on social interaction, and social apps, would be invalidated in any way, due to the fact that they are an individual who chose to spent a decade in isolation? You really cannot come up with any reasons yourself, as for why their opinion, could be at least a little bit suspect, or why it could be OK to dismiss their opinion on these topics, given that they chose to spend a decade in isolation? Generally, when having a conversation with someone, and they ask 1 million questions, that they should know the answer to, my only conclusion that I will be able to reach is that they are acting in bad faith. > it’s not clear how this piece is related to your earlier comments You truly cannot think of any parallels, or ways, in which the analogy is related, between these types of behavior? C'mon. I know you can think this through here. These are simple statements here. I know you can figure this out.
        zepto 6y ago
        What I’m interested in is why you think they are insane. Me guessing will not answer that question. Why not just say?

zepto 6y ago

Can you say what specifically about this person leads you to say they are insane?

stale2002 6y ago
> leads you to say they are insane? You already agreed that their choice, to spend a decade in isolation, was unusual. If we want to use a euphemism, and it looks like I will have to do so given how you are acting, I'll just stick with that position, that you agreed is the case. Spending a decade in isolation is pretty "unusual", and you have already agreed that this is the case. So I'll just have to stick with the word that you already agreed to call it, given that you are unwilling to understand basically anything that I am saying. Both you and I agree, that this is pretty darn "unusual". And if that is the only word that you will concede describes the situation, then I guess I am ok with simply saying that their decisions are pretty darn "unusual", and we'll just use that as the euphemism, and the example that you asked for.
- zepto 6y ago
  I agreed that it’s unusual. But that’s not the same as insane, and I am not using a euphemism. If you are using the word ‘unusual’ as a euphemism for insane, that’s not how I’m using that word. You keep saying we ‘agree’ but that’s not true if we are using the word we are supposed to ‘agree’ on differently. Do you think all unusual behavior is insane? If not, can you explain how this particular behavior is?
  - stale2002 6y ago
    > agreed that it’s unusual Ok, well lets just go with that then. When people who do things like spend a decade in isolation, and then use that example in the writings about clubhouse, well that is what I am talking about. There is no need to talk about a voicechat app, in this way, or take such a person seriously, as a normal example, of a normal opinion on a voice chat app.
    - zepto 6y ago
      Why not answer my actual question? Why do you think they are insane? It seems simple enough. Also - it’s not clear how this piece is related to your earlier comments about Jesus and people having religious experiences. How are the two connected?
      - stale2002 6y ago
        > Why do you think they are insane? Are you saying that you cannot think of any way or argument, as for why a person's opinion on social interaction, and social apps, would be invalidated in any way, due to the fact that they are an individual who chose to spent a decade in isolation? You really cannot come up with any reasons yourself, as for why their opinion, could be at least a little bit suspect, or why it could be OK to dismiss their opinion on these topics, given that they chose to spend a decade in isolation? Generally, when having a conversation with someone, and they ask 1 million questions, that they should know the answer to, my only conclusion that I will be able to reach is that they are acting in bad faith. > it’s not clear how this piece is related to your earlier comments You truly cannot think of any parallels, or ways, in which the analogy is related, between these types of behavior? C'mon. I know you can think this through here. These are simple statements here. I know you can figure this out.
        zepto 6y ago
        What I’m interested in is why you think they are insane. Me guessing will not answer that question. Why not just say?