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Was it lockdowns or was it border closures or was it the geographical location of New Zealand or was it chance? This is the whole problem with the pro-lockdown
by thu2111 5y ago
Was it lockdowns or was it border closures or was it the geographical location of New Zealand or was it chance?
This is the whole problem with the pro-lockdown position. It's turned into an exercise in cherry picking. We don't need to do this, we have global datasets and those can be analysed to try and detect correlations between policies and outcomes. When this analysis has been done, there are no correlations.
Here's a summary of an unusually thorough analysis of global geography vs excess mortality:
https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/05/03/geography-not-lockdowns-explains-the-global-pattern-of-excess-mortality/ https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/05/03/geography-not-lockdo...
Here's an analysis of mortality vs control stringency across all US states:
https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/04/24/more-people-died-in-u-s-states-which-locked-down-than-those-which-did-not-heres-why/ https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/04/24/more-people-died-in-...
Here's a published, peer reviewed paper which says the same thing:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30208-X/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5...
The thing is, it’s something you have to commit to. You can’t just half ass it.
Some countries have now accrued more public debt than after World War 2. At some point, even the most ardent true believers in this policy have to accept that if entire continents can take measures as extreme as they have done and get no results whatsoever then it is a failed policy.
- giardini 5y agothu2111 says >"Some countries have now accrued more public debt than after World War 2. At some point, even the most ardent true believers in this policy have to accept that if entire continents can take measures as extreme as they have done and get no results whatsoever then it is a failed policy."< Wow! This is the best takeaway of this discussion and possibly one of the most quotable statements (and posts) ever made concerning the Covid-19 lockdowns. My hat is off to you, sir.