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But they refuse to go back or admit when they are wrong. They simply have been stubborn. It's killing their trust

Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
You sure about that? From what I've seen, the experts have gladly admitted they were wrong. It's the politicians who refuse to go back.
- kickout 5y ago
  I mean yes I am sure, lol. Kids (IMO) and schools should've been opened and outdoor activities (non-mass events) should be restriction-free _everywhere_ as the risks associated to those populations or activities are vanishingly small. But several states still have onerous (IMO) restrictions.
  - Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
    Yeah, sure, the kids are incredibly unlikely to die from COVID, but what about the grandma they hug when they get home from school? What about the teachers? I agree on the outdoor activities thing, though. I go for a daily walk through trails behind my house, and I never bothered with a mask.
    - josephcsible 5y ago
      > what about the grandma they hug when they get home from school? Why not say "don't go to Grandma's house" instead of "don't go to school"? The former is way less disruptive. > What about the teachers? Most teachers aren't high-risk. Let the ones who are teach over Zoom or get paid leave.
      - edmundsauto 5y ago
        I saw articles last year saying that 25+% of teachers are high risk. I don't think you could run schools with that many fewer teachers and admins. That ignores the issue that teachers don't want to return until schools can offer PPE and safety regs.
      - Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
        Some children live with their grandparents.
        josephcsible 5y ago
        But most children don't. So why not let children who don't live with anyone high-risk go back to a normal life?
  - edmundsauto 5y ago
    I am just as sure that experts have been updating their advice, so I guess that leaves us at an impasse? It sounds like you disagree with some of their conclusions, which isn't the same thing as saying they haven't updated their opinions as new evidence comes in. Policy experts also have to weigh the second and third order effects of their statements - especially in a country like America, where the diversity of reactions to official statements ranges the gamut.

You sure about that? From what I've seen, the experts have gladly admitted they were wrong. It's the politicians who refuse to go back.

kickout 5y ago
I mean yes I am sure, lol. Kids (IMO) and schools should've been opened and outdoor activities (non-mass events) should be restriction-free _everywhere_ as the risks associated to those populations or activities are vanishingly small. But several states still have onerous (IMO) restrictions.
- Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
  Yeah, sure, the kids are incredibly unlikely to die from COVID, but what about the grandma they hug when they get home from school? What about the teachers? I agree on the outdoor activities thing, though. I go for a daily walk through trails behind my house, and I never bothered with a mask.
  - josephcsible 5y ago
    > what about the grandma they hug when they get home from school? Why not say "don't go to Grandma's house" instead of "don't go to school"? The former is way less disruptive. > What about the teachers? Most teachers aren't high-risk. Let the ones who are teach over Zoom or get paid leave.
    - edmundsauto 5y ago
      I saw articles last year saying that 25+% of teachers are high risk. I don't think you could run schools with that many fewer teachers and admins. That ignores the issue that teachers don't want to return until schools can offer PPE and safety regs.
    - Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
      Some children live with their grandparents.
      - josephcsible 5y ago
        But most children don't. So why not let children who don't live with anyone high-risk go back to a normal life?
- edmundsauto 5y ago
  I am just as sure that experts have been updating their advice, so I guess that leaves us at an impasse? It sounds like you disagree with some of their conclusions, which isn't the same thing as saying they haven't updated their opinions as new evidence comes in. Policy experts also have to weigh the second and third order effects of their statements - especially in a country like America, where the diversity of reactions to official statements ranges the gamut.