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France here, I’m just waiting for the end of the state of emergency + two months. I’ll vaccinate when the press is free to discuss the problems (and does it).
by laurent92 5y ago
France here, I’m just waiting for the end of the state of emergency + two months. I’ll vaccinate when the press is free to discuss the problems (and does it).
I estimate we can’t know the truth about vaccines as long as the press is mandated by law to say what the president mandates them to say, and there is no reason to trust a president who holds his “conseil des ministres” in a bunker (“conseil de défense sanitaire”, jail time for anyone who discloses the contents - seriously why do they have to hide).
It’s not like they didn’t lie to us during Chernobyl or by saying “masks are medically useless, according to le conseil sanitaire” (words of President Macron in April 2020 - our current president) so they have 0% track record of being good custodians of truth. Research is supposed to be dirty with plenty of disagreeing voices. As long as we see scientists agreeing in the press: It’s not science, it’s staged.
During the period of blood transfusions with AIDS, we actively contaminated hundreds of thousands here in France, fully knowing what we were doing, and masquerading all of it in the press. I’m pro-vax in the end, but concerning rushed vaccines with no freedom of press to disclose scandals: I’ll just wait it off, thanks.
- alibarber 5y agoWow - I did not know that was the case. Look - I'm pretty pro-vax, I went and paid for a bunch privately a couple of years ago because I was travelling and thought 'why not get them all?' (like going for the nice-fancy-extra car wash program), and always get the flu shot - but that, wow, sounds frankly outrageous. [EDIT] As a Brit in Europe - I do sometimes get the feeling that a lot of this is political maneuvering managing the fallout from the EU's less than stellar program (people can debate all they like, but the objective facts are: They tried, for the first time, to procure vaccines centrally, and after the same amount of time, demographics in the UK and US have them that don't in the EU), so maybe that's why they're so protective about it.
- rportugal 5y agoMy exact position, but I'm in the UK. However, you can't have a civilised discussion about any of this, without being labeled anti-vax...