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Just look at the standoff between the teacher unions and the CDC. The unions take the side of their members who would rather stay away from the little asymptoma

Just look at the standoff between the teacher unions and the CDC. The unions take the side of their members who would rather stay away from the little asymptomatic sweethearts while the CDC takes the government's side and would like to have school going again so both parents can be back at work. If the government's messaging is that the economy takes precedence over individual safety, that's the priors that people work with when they evaluate vaccine safety.

anonAndOn 6y ago
US education: Those asymptomatic sweethearts are largely languishing, at least the ones in part-time distance learning environments. This has not been the case for those kids that could afford to attend private schools as many have been attending classes at school for most/all of the entire school year. So you've got private school kids on track and public school kids with stunted academic development because why, exactly?
- edmundsauto 6y ago
  Because the teachers, who often feel that they are not paid enough for the regular job, don’t feel safe? I don’t get why this is so controversial - they don’t want to risk their health to teach your kids.
  - anonAndOn 6y ago
    It's controversial because teaching in person can be done safely as evidenced by thousands of private schools during the past school year. If teacher's unions were doing what's in the best interest for the kids, they would have largely returned to school at this point. However, it has become clear that what is best for the kids is second to what is comfortable for the teachers. If this obstruction to in-class instruction continues, the short-sightedness of this position will become readily apparent in the Fall as many families who have the means will go private (if they haven't already) thus depriving the schools of both tax dollars and the critically-important engaged families that support many of the extra/co-curricular amenities of public schools. Voucher Programs/charter schools/religious schools will all benefit to the detriment of public schools.
    - HarryHirsch 6y ago
      Schools are the main source of spread between households. Consider the experience from Israel, the disease appeared to be under control and on the way out, until they opened school. Understandable that any teacher wouldn't wish to bring it home.
      - anonAndOn 6y ago
        And yet, the US only has ~320 million more people with thousands of private schools across the country that stayed open for in-class instruction this school year but no discernable pattern of causing outbreaks. Understandable how the anti-vaxxers and the teacher's unions are both opposed to empirical evidence.
    - edmundsauto 6y ago
      I am not in a teacher's union, but if I were, I would want it to be focused on what's best for me - not the students. Parents and other groups are good advocates for the students. Also, the resources available to private schools are very different than those available to public schools. The example provided shows that it is possible for some schools to return to in-person. It does not follow that it would be possible for all (or most) schools, especially as you have fewer resources available.
    - kbelder 6y ago
      Well, it's the teacher's union. Any benefit it from it that accrues to children is purely accidental. Maybe kids should unionize. There's a nightmare scenario.

anonAndOn 6y ago

US education: Those asymptomatic sweethearts are largely languishing, at least the ones in part-time distance learning environments. This has not been the case for those kids that could afford to attend private schools as many have been attending classes at school for most/all of the entire school year. So you've got private school kids on track and public school kids with stunted academic development because why, exactly?

edmundsauto 6y ago
Because the teachers, who often feel that they are not paid enough for the regular job, don’t feel safe? I don’t get why this is so controversial - they don’t want to risk their health to teach your kids.
- anonAndOn 6y ago
  It's controversial because teaching in person can be done safely as evidenced by thousands of private schools during the past school year. If teacher's unions were doing what's in the best interest for the kids, they would have largely returned to school at this point. However, it has become clear that what is best for the kids is second to what is comfortable for the teachers. If this obstruction to in-class instruction continues, the short-sightedness of this position will become readily apparent in the Fall as many families who have the means will go private (if they haven't already) thus depriving the schools of both tax dollars and the critically-important engaged families that support many of the extra/co-curricular amenities of public schools. Voucher Programs/charter schools/religious schools will all benefit to the detriment of public schools.
  - HarryHirsch 6y ago
    Schools are the main source of spread between households. Consider the experience from Israel, the disease appeared to be under control and on the way out, until they opened school. Understandable that any teacher wouldn't wish to bring it home.
    - anonAndOn 6y ago
      And yet, the US only has ~320 million more people with thousands of private schools across the country that stayed open for in-class instruction this school year but no discernable pattern of causing outbreaks. Understandable how the anti-vaxxers and the teacher's unions are both opposed to empirical evidence.
  - edmundsauto 6y ago
    I am not in a teacher's union, but if I were, I would want it to be focused on what's best for me - not the students. Parents and other groups are good advocates for the students. Also, the resources available to private schools are very different than those available to public schools. The example provided shows that it is possible for some schools to return to in-person. It does not follow that it would be possible for all (or most) schools, especially as you have fewer resources available.
  - kbelder 6y ago
    Well, it's the teacher's union. Any benefit it from it that accrues to children is purely accidental. Maybe kids should unionize. There's a nightmare scenario.