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I generally use TeXmacs for notes and derivations for myself. For journal articles that obviously will be collaborations I use just plain latex of course. I thi

I generally use TeXmacs for notes and derivations for myself. For journal articles that obviously will be collaborations I use just plain latex of course. I think the most I did was in grad school is that I wrote my candidacy report in TeXmacs, but that was obviously just something I wrote myself and it didn't require a specific style. I think a happy medium would be if you could export snippets of latex from a larger texmacs doc but I haven't actually tried it.

mgubi 6y ago
I generally use TeXmacs for notes, derivations, lectures, articles, all, of course. Most of my papers in the last 7 years, around 15 and all my lectures in the same period, circa 2 courses a year. More in detail, all these papers are been written completely in TeXmacs and then converted to LaTeX to be put in arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.09637 https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.09637 https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.01513 https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.01513 https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.00872 https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.00872 https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.14264 https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.14264 https://arxiv.org/abs/1912.06881 https://arxiv.org/abs/1912.06881 https://arxiv.org/abs/1912.04830 https://arxiv.org/abs/1912.04830 https://arxiv.org/abs/1906.11187 https://arxiv.org/abs/1906.11187 https://arxiv.org/abs/1812.04422 https://arxiv.org/abs/1812.04422 https://arxiv.org/abs/1810.12014 https://arxiv.org/abs/1810.12014 https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.10814 https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.10814 https://arxiv.org/abs/1708.03118 https://arxiv.org/abs/1708.03118 https://arxiv.org/abs/1702.03195 https://arxiv.org/abs/1702.03195 https://arxiv.org/abs/1701.07373 https://arxiv.org/abs/1701.07373 https://arxiv.org/abs/1610.07886 https://arxiv.org/abs/1610.07886 https://arxiv.org/abs/1508.03877 https://arxiv.org/abs/1508.03877 https://arxiv.org/abs/1502.00157 https://arxiv.org/abs/1502.00157 Similarly all the lecture notes in this page: https://www.iam.uni-bonn.de/abteilung-gubinelli/teaching https://www.iam.uni-bonn.de/abteilung-gubinelli/teaching I think most of the discussion in this thread does not report any real current experience using it.
- noobermin 6y ago
  Interesting. How do you collaborate with others who just use latex? Just as a note, I do use it today, just not to publish anything as I mostly have to adhere to journal article styles (can't just get by on preprints in my field) and I collaborate with others.
  - mgubi 6y ago
    I convince them to use TeXmacs :). At least I do not want to use LaTeX anymore (note that I've been hardcore LaTeX users for long time and also developed software to support LaTeX, e.g. TeXniscope, a previewer for DVI/PDF files in the early times of MacOS). Conversion to LaTeX format happens in the last stage of the submission (to arXiv or to a journal). It takes usually from 1 to maybe 10 min to have the file ready, maybe small tweaks for some bugs which I report and then get corrected. Three of my students wrote their PhD thesis with TeXmacs, and at least two/three other people I know. If I need to collaborate on a file which is being written in LaTeX I write my parts in TeXmacs and then I paste them in the file. Most of my presentations are also written in TeXmacs and in these days I use it to teach via Zoom, or to discuss with colleagues/students, make computations, etc... Not really using paper anymore. If you need to do algebraic manipulations, then it is more convenient to copy/paste on the screen that to rewrite the same equation several times with small variations on the paper. Using the submission requirements as an argument seems so wrong to me, it is like saying: since the final format is PDF we need to write our ideas directly in PDF... if one day editors will decide to use XML as submission format, then what? I do not want to think about mathematics with a screen divided in two parts, and the quality of the process is also very important to me. I spend maybe months to work on a paper in TeXmacs and at most only 1h in LaTeX when I really need to because editors are become used to require from the authors the work a professional typesetter would have done in the past.
- JustFinishedBSG 6y ago
  Just wanted to say I loved your course on martingales approx 7 years ago at Dauphine, maybe it was already in TeXmacs :)
  - mgubi 6y ago
    Thanks. Glad you liked it enough to remember :) Indeed, I've just checked and I still have the TeXmacs files for the "polycopié du cours de Processus Discrets". The main developer was in Orsay at the same time I was there 2006, for mixed circumstances I've started to interest me to that software at the same time. I should say at the beginning I was attracted to TeXmacs not as a user but because it is a very complex piece of software which is very fun to hack on (choose your language: Scheme or C++).
GiovanniP 6y ago
> I think a happy medium would be if you could export snippets of latex from a larger texmacs doc but I haven't actually tried it. In the TeXmacs editor Edit->Copy to->LaTeX (one might have to add some macro definitions in the preamble of the LaTeX document)

mgubi 6y ago

I generally use TeXmacs for notes, derivations, lectures, articles, all, of course. Most of my papers in the last 7 years, around 15 and all my lectures in the same period, circa 2 courses a year. More in detail, all these papers are been written completely in TeXmacs and then converted to LaTeX to be put in arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.09637 https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.09637 https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.01513 https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.01513 https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.00872 https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.00872 https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.14264 https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.14264 https://arxiv.org/abs/1912.06881 https://arxiv.org/abs/1912.06881 https://arxiv.org/abs/1912.04830 https://arxiv.org/abs/1912.04830 https://arxiv.org/abs/1906.11187 https://arxiv.org/abs/1906.11187 https://arxiv.org/abs/1812.04422 https://arxiv.org/abs/1812.04422 https://arxiv.org/abs/1810.12014 https://arxiv.org/abs/1810.12014 https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.10814 https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.10814 https://arxiv.org/abs/1708.03118 https://arxiv.org/abs/1708.03118 https://arxiv.org/abs/1702.03195 https://arxiv.org/abs/1702.03195 https://arxiv.org/abs/1701.07373 https://arxiv.org/abs/1701.07373 https://arxiv.org/abs/1610.07886 https://arxiv.org/abs/1610.07886 https://arxiv.org/abs/1508.03877 https://arxiv.org/abs/1508.03877 https://arxiv.org/abs/1502.00157 https://arxiv.org/abs/1502.00157 Similarly all the lecture notes in this page: https://www.iam.uni-bonn.de/abteilung-gubinelli/teaching https://www.iam.uni-bonn.de/abteilung-gubinelli/teaching I think most of the discussion in this thread does not report any real current experience using it.

noobermin 6y ago
Interesting. How do you collaborate with others who just use latex? Just as a note, I do use it today, just not to publish anything as I mostly have to adhere to journal article styles (can't just get by on preprints in my field) and I collaborate with others.
- mgubi 6y ago
  I convince them to use TeXmacs :). At least I do not want to use LaTeX anymore (note that I've been hardcore LaTeX users for long time and also developed software to support LaTeX, e.g. TeXniscope, a previewer for DVI/PDF files in the early times of MacOS). Conversion to LaTeX format happens in the last stage of the submission (to arXiv or to a journal). It takes usually from 1 to maybe 10 min to have the file ready, maybe small tweaks for some bugs which I report and then get corrected. Three of my students wrote their PhD thesis with TeXmacs, and at least two/three other people I know. If I need to collaborate on a file which is being written in LaTeX I write my parts in TeXmacs and then I paste them in the file. Most of my presentations are also written in TeXmacs and in these days I use it to teach via Zoom, or to discuss with colleagues/students, make computations, etc... Not really using paper anymore. If you need to do algebraic manipulations, then it is more convenient to copy/paste on the screen that to rewrite the same equation several times with small variations on the paper. Using the submission requirements as an argument seems so wrong to me, it is like saying: since the final format is PDF we need to write our ideas directly in PDF... if one day editors will decide to use XML as submission format, then what? I do not want to think about mathematics with a screen divided in two parts, and the quality of the process is also very important to me. I spend maybe months to work on a paper in TeXmacs and at most only 1h in LaTeX when I really need to because editors are become used to require from the authors the work a professional typesetter would have done in the past.
JustFinishedBSG 6y ago
Just wanted to say I loved your course on martingales approx 7 years ago at Dauphine, maybe it was already in TeXmacs :)
- mgubi 6y ago
  Thanks. Glad you liked it enough to remember :) Indeed, I've just checked and I still have the TeXmacs files for the "polycopié du cours de Processus Discrets". The main developer was in Orsay at the same time I was there 2006, for mixed circumstances I've started to interest me to that software at the same time. I should say at the beginning I was attracted to TeXmacs not as a user but because it is a very complex piece of software which is very fun to hack on (choose your language: Scheme or C++).

GiovanniP 6y ago

> I think a happy medium would be if you could export snippets of latex from a larger texmacs doc but I haven't actually tried it. In the TeXmacs editor Edit->Copy to->LaTeX (one might have to add some macro definitions in the preamble of the LaTeX document)