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It's a little device sold by the guy who made the video that makes much of his hard-earned muscle memory for lock picking unnecessary. It doesn't replicate his
by hirundo 5y ago
It's a little device sold by the guy who made the video that makes much of his hard-earned muscle memory for lock picking unnecessary. It doesn't replicate his thousands of hours of training but it goes a long way.
It also wouldn't take an Eli Whitney to turn it into an automated gadget that works as a universal key for the most common locks.
This channel does the great service of convincingly demonstrating how poorly most locks secure against a skilled attacker. And that the skill threshold is rapidly decreasing.
- anonporridge 5y agoThe most important general takeaway I have is that you can't rely purely on passive security. No matter how elaborate your designs, someone will always find a way in given enough incentive. And given enough time, a tricky, narrow exploit gets widened into a highway. Security is a red queen. You have to run fast just to stay in the same place.
- capableweb 5y ago> No matter how elaborate your designs, someone will always find a way in given enough incentive I'd reverse it. When you realize you need "security" you can't just focus on one or two aspects. You have to figure out what you need security from. A padlock won't stop the government of course, but it will stop a teenager who wouldn't want to leave any trace of breaking it nor know how to pick locks. Just like storing your cryptocurrencies on a hardware device might protect it against phishing attacks or other technological attacks but it won't stop someone from grabbing you in person and threatening you with a hammer. For that you need physical protection. So unless you know who you're protecting yourself/your thing against, you won't be able to know what security you really need.
- kube-system 5y agoi.e. "threat model" Be weary of anyone who makes security recommendations without first qualifying their audience's threat model. Unless they understand what they're trying to protect against, it's simply opinionated guesswork, and could even be counterproductive.
- mgarfias 5y agoI guess my dog is “active” security then.
- bawolff 5y agoYes, that very literally is active security.
- fanatic2pope 5y agoDepends on the dog. Years ago I had a black lab who slept peacefully right through an entire burglary. They even had to step over him to get to my CD collection.
- mgarfias 5y agoI’ve got a pack of shepherds. They are all quite active. Even the old guy
- NicoJuicy 5y agoThere's a whistle that scares all dogs.
- falcolas 5y ago> And that the skill threshold is rapidly decreasing. Especially when you consider how many locks (esp. high tech locks) are vulnerable to low skill attacks (rapping, shimming, magnets).
- Arainach 5y ago>It also wouldn't take an Eli Whitney to turn it into an automated gadget that works as a universal key for the most common locks. These have existed for a while. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKZ_vJDMJ9A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKZ_vJDMJ9A The mechanism isn't quite the same, but that's because for most common locks, if you're building a machine you don't need pin-by-pin picking.
- ineedasername 5y agoCorrect, lishi picks are great for single pin picking, and I suspect it might allow dealing with security pins much easier than a pick gun. Such guns are somewhat similar to raking techniques, which are not great with security pins.
- SavantIdiot 5y agoI first read about these in a book called "How to get Anything on Anybody" that I bought from the Paladin Press in 1983. They're from the 50's, I believe, and haven't changed much.
- ineedasername 5y agoThe limitation of turning it into a general tool for common locks is the shape of the keyway. There are multiple versions required because the contours keys can vary significantly. Similarly, these tools feature the ability to decode the lock so you can actually use the information to make a duplicate of a key without the key itself. A single tool wouldn't do that because the pin lengths can vary for different lock types, and sometimes the distance between pins. However, something like a pick gun can server pretty well for a wide variety of locks, with the limitation that they lose some efficacy when a lock has security pins.
- yeneek 5y agoI bought pick gun long time ago and was pretty disapointed. Pick gun need wide keyhole. Most locks I encountered had zig zag keyhole.
- ineedasername 5y agoYeah, pick guns aren't great for even medium security locks or paracentric keyways. Standard schlage, kwikset, yale... They aren't too bad. But any of their models that allow them to be re-keyed by the end user generally don't use pin & tumbler designs so raking it and pick guns are useless.
- ashtonkem 5y agoWhat’s fascinating is that it doesn’t seem to matter; most thefts in the US appear to be the result of something be completely unsecured, or via brute force. Chances are someone is far more likely to break your window than pick your lock. The only ones that really bother me are the firearm locks. A distressingly large percentage of firearm locks he talks about can be opened in seconds by an untrained teenager, which seems incredibly bad to me.
- LeifCarrotson 5y agoThe other distressing problem with lockpicking and especially with firearm locks is that a significant part of their security model relies on obscurity. To be professionally effective, a locksmith must know a lot of trivia about dozens of locks, and you can make that hundreds or thousands if they want to expand to gun safes and bike locks and cars and on and on... For that purpose, the plethora of cheap options is a decent deterrent. No normal burglar is likely to have specialized skills in opening dozens of locks. But in a targeted attack, if you give any teenager a chance to look at the lock, then a few days to go on the Internet and see someone trivially jiggling the wafer core open, maybe buy an identical lock for $10 and practice their skills, none of the basic products are likely to be effective.
- stainforth 5y agoSecurity by obscurity or security by variety better yet?
- danmur 5y agoObscurity through variety :)
- hellbannedguy 5y agoA center punch to the driver's window welcomed me to San Francisco. I got a $20 radio, and left my truck unlocked, with a sign. The sign read, "Nap in the back of my truck. Use the seat to rest, but please don't break anything else." Never happened again, and for a week someone was leaving a $10 in my glove box. Crazy? I drive an old Toyota Truck, and most of you have nicer cars. Oh yea, I did put a kill switch in the truck.
- justaj 5y ago> how poorly most locks secure against a skilled attacker. So which are some of the locks that secure better than most locks?
- GekkePrutser 5y agoI don't think it's made by him, it's got a picture of Mao Zedong on it and the guy sounds pretty American. I think he just sources them from China?