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Social media is revolutionary for many people. It can be inspirational in both good and bad ways. Without social media, the Black Lives Matter movement wouldn't

Social media is revolutionary for many people. It can be inspirational in both good and bad ways. Without social media, the Black Lives Matter movement wouldn't be as wide-reaching, but then again neither would ISIS. I would say these two examples have changed many lives.

stale2002 5y ago
Sigh.... Not sure why it is so hard for people to understand my point. But lets try again with another example. Lets say that you met someone who just learned about chocolate chip cookies. And they like chocolate chip cookies. They like them so much, that they break down crying, every time they talk cookies. Their entire life is now a cookie lifestyle. They have found a new cookie religion. What would you think of this person? Personally, I would think that this person is mentally ill and needs to seek professional help. This is an analogy here. Take everything that I said, about this cookie person, and apply it to clubhouse. Sometimes, it legitimately feels like people are talking about clubhouse, in the same way as this hypothetically mentally ill cookie person. Do you understand the problem here, of why it would be both a problem, for someone to talk about cookies, or clubhouse, in this way that I have described?
- zepto 5y ago
  > They like them so much, that they break down crying, every time they talk cookies. Who actually does this? It seems like you are seeing this behavior a lot so it should be easy to find an example. > Their entire life is now a cookie lifestyle. A lot of people who join social clubs spend a lot of time at them. That’s not particularly unusual. I don’t see why it would be different for a virtual social club, especially at a time when in-person social experiences are more scarce. It is of course possible that clubhouse selects for people with a kind of mental illness or personality type, but you aren’t making any case for that - you just saying ‘it’ is a problem.
  - stale2002 5y ago
    > It seems like you are seeing this behavior I am being a tab bit hyperbolic, in order to get people to, at the very least, concede the point, that there is some level of obsession with a new voice chat app that is unhealthy. Because it seems like people are almost being intentionally obtuse, and are intentionally misinterpreting my point, in bad faith, in order to win some "debate" that nobody was ever having. If you are willing to agree, that absolutely people could be too obsessed with a voice chat app, then that is my point. It is unfortunate that I have to explain this in such extreme terms, in order for people to understand the point I am trying to make. But here we are. If you want an example, you can just look at the blog post that someone else made about clubhouse, in this very hacker news thread, that described clubhouse in terms, that, although are not as extreme as the hyperbolic example that I gave, should at the very least get you to understand the point I am trying to make here, about... shall we say... at least a moderate amount of unhealthy levels of obsession. https://areoform.wordpress.com/2021/04/18/on-clubhouse/ https://areoform.wordpress.com/2021/04/18/on-clubhouse/ In this blog post, the person describes how they have literally lived in "isolation" for a decade, and that there were time periods, where they did not speak to another human for months. And they use this personal example, of literal isolation for a decade, to describe how clubhouse, changed their life, or something. Like I said, I was being a tad hyperbolic before, but when we are talking about people writing about clubhouse, who spent their life in isolation for a decade, you should be able to understand the point I am trying to make here.
    - zepto 5y ago
      I’m not being obtuse. You have posted a link to a person who has chosen to live in isolation for more than a decade to satisfy their own curiosity - which obviously has nothing to do with clubhouse. It’s not really clear why that’s relevant to anything. Why would it be so surprising that clubhouse would change such a person’s life? Clearly this person’s choices are unusual, but I don’t really see how you deduce anything about clubhouse or its users in general. The piece was quite well written.
      - stale2002 5y ago
        > It’s not really clear why that’s relevant to anything. It is relevant, because you asked for an example. This was a blogpost about clubhouse, and they are using their insane, personal experience, of living in isolation for a decade, to satisfy their curiosity, as some situation that is related to clubhouse, according to them. That is crazy. That is insane. And I should not have to explain to you why that is the case. If someone is talking about clubhouse this way, then I have absolutely no problem, with describing such a blog post, as my example of unhealthy levels of obsession. > Clearly this person’s choices are unusual You asked for an example, and I gave you one that satifies what you asked for. I am glad you agree that this is an example of unusual behavior.

stale2002 5y ago

Sigh.... Not sure why it is so hard for people to understand my point. But lets try again with another example. Lets say that you met someone who just learned about chocolate chip cookies. And they like chocolate chip cookies. They like them so much, that they break down crying, every time they talk cookies. Their entire life is now a cookie lifestyle. They have found a new cookie religion. What would you think of this person? Personally, I would think that this person is mentally ill and needs to seek professional help. This is an analogy here. Take everything that I said, about this cookie person, and apply it to clubhouse. Sometimes, it legitimately feels like people are talking about clubhouse, in the same way as this hypothetically mentally ill cookie person. Do you understand the problem here, of why it would be both a problem, for someone to talk about cookies, or clubhouse, in this way that I have described?

zepto 5y ago
> They like them so much, that they break down crying, every time they talk cookies. Who actually does this? It seems like you are seeing this behavior a lot so it should be easy to find an example. > Their entire life is now a cookie lifestyle. A lot of people who join social clubs spend a lot of time at them. That’s not particularly unusual. I don’t see why it would be different for a virtual social club, especially at a time when in-person social experiences are more scarce. It is of course possible that clubhouse selects for people with a kind of mental illness or personality type, but you aren’t making any case for that - you just saying ‘it’ is a problem.
- stale2002 5y ago
  > It seems like you are seeing this behavior I am being a tab bit hyperbolic, in order to get people to, at the very least, concede the point, that there is some level of obsession with a new voice chat app that is unhealthy. Because it seems like people are almost being intentionally obtuse, and are intentionally misinterpreting my point, in bad faith, in order to win some "debate" that nobody was ever having. If you are willing to agree, that absolutely people could be too obsessed with a voice chat app, then that is my point. It is unfortunate that I have to explain this in such extreme terms, in order for people to understand the point I am trying to make. But here we are. If you want an example, you can just look at the blog post that someone else made about clubhouse, in this very hacker news thread, that described clubhouse in terms, that, although are not as extreme as the hyperbolic example that I gave, should at the very least get you to understand the point I am trying to make here, about... shall we say... at least a moderate amount of unhealthy levels of obsession. https://areoform.wordpress.com/2021/04/18/on-clubhouse/ https://areoform.wordpress.com/2021/04/18/on-clubhouse/ In this blog post, the person describes how they have literally lived in "isolation" for a decade, and that there were time periods, where they did not speak to another human for months. And they use this personal example, of literal isolation for a decade, to describe how clubhouse, changed their life, or something. Like I said, I was being a tad hyperbolic before, but when we are talking about people writing about clubhouse, who spent their life in isolation for a decade, you should be able to understand the point I am trying to make here.
  - zepto 5y ago
    I’m not being obtuse. You have posted a link to a person who has chosen to live in isolation for more than a decade to satisfy their own curiosity - which obviously has nothing to do with clubhouse. It’s not really clear why that’s relevant to anything. Why would it be so surprising that clubhouse would change such a person’s life? Clearly this person’s choices are unusual, but I don’t really see how you deduce anything about clubhouse or its users in general. The piece was quite well written.
    - stale2002 5y ago
      > It’s not really clear why that’s relevant to anything. It is relevant, because you asked for an example. This was a blogpost about clubhouse, and they are using their insane, personal experience, of living in isolation for a decade, to satisfy their curiosity, as some situation that is related to clubhouse, according to them. That is crazy. That is insane. And I should not have to explain to you why that is the case. If someone is talking about clubhouse this way, then I have absolutely no problem, with describing such a blog post, as my example of unhealthy levels of obsession. > Clearly this person’s choices are unusual You asked for an example, and I gave you one that satifies what you asked for. I am glad you agree that this is an example of unusual behavior.