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> You cannot dismantle the only mail service that is OBLIGATED to deliver mail to every address. It doesn't, though. I lived ten years at an address they would

by msla 6y ago

> You cannot dismantle the only mail service that is OBLIGATED to deliver mail to every address. It doesn't, though. I lived ten years at an address they wouldn't deliver to. I had to rent a PO Box in the nearest town to get USPS mail, whereas UPS and FedEx delivered right to my door. I don't know where you're getting your information, but it isn't true.

jermaustin1 6y ago
This does not compute. They have the legal obligation to deliver to all addresses. Do you have an address that has been assigned by your county? Have you registered the new address with your USPS? Your mailbox might not be at your drive way, or on your front step, but a mailbox cluster in a central location. From the USPS (emphasis mine): > We’re proud to provide secure, reliable and affordable service to every address in the United States, plus its territories and its military and diplomatic installations worldwide.
- minitoar 6y ago
  The only situation I know of where the usps will refuse to deliver is if there is some sort of danger, eg a biting dog. A neighbor had to get a P.O. Box because of this.
- WarOnPrivacy 6y ago
  Guessing: Perhaps his residence wasn't an address.
  - msla 6y ago
    My residence was an address. It was a house with a house number on a named road.
- msla 6y ago
  > Do you have an address that has been assigned by your county? Have you registered the new address with your USPS? Yes, it's a hard address which the fire department, for example, can use. And the USPS knew about it. > Your mailbox might not be at your drive way, or on your front step, but a mailbox cluster in a central location. My mailbox was in a post office miles away from my house, which I had to pay for. I've since moved.
- kodah 6y ago
  That computes for me when I lived in a rural area. A lot of commenters came to tout this: > They have the legal obligation to deliver to all addresses. Do you have an address that has been assigned by your county? While that might be true, in practicality it was not. It took me months at two different locations to get USPS to stop screwing things up or to give me access to a cluster. I think a lot of people here have had great experiences with USPS and are unable to imagine geographies where the system doesn't work too well.
dmckeon 6y ago
I have lived at a non-delivery address for the past 5 years. The “every address” myth seems to be propagated by people who support USPS and conflate “we deliver to people all over the US” with “every address”. That sounds similar, but is significantly different, and can be a major pain when dealing with people or businesses that believe the myth, and try to send important paperwork to a physical address, which may end up in our P.o. box if the USPS person handling it recognizes the name and can match it to a box number. Putting both the physical and P.o. box addresses into an address block, in that order, works well, but then shippers can balk at finding a box number. (see also “Falsehoods programmers believe about addresses, etc.”)
- jermaustin1 6y ago
  If it is a myth, it is propagated by the USPS. They will deliver for every mail address. USPS designated non-deliverable addresses are typically new addresses that haven't been added, or as another commenter posted, an address that is unsafe to deliver. Now, delivering to your mailbox might be a central mail hub that is part of your community/neighborhood, and not directly to your door, but that is still your address's mailbox.
  - Rebelgecko 6y ago
    What's the difference between a mail address and a street address?
msla 6y ago
Here's evidence for my claim: https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/when-usps-does-not-deliver-in-rural-areas/145413 https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/when-usps-does-not...

by msla 6y ago

jermaustin1 6y ago

This does not compute. They have the legal obligation to deliver to all addresses. Do you have an address that has been assigned by your county? Have you registered the new address with your USPS? Your mailbox might not be at your drive way, or on your front step, but a mailbox cluster in a central location. From the USPS (emphasis mine): > We’re proud to provide secure, reliable and affordable service to every address in the United States, plus its territories and its military and diplomatic installations worldwide.

minitoar 6y ago
The only situation I know of where the usps will refuse to deliver is if there is some sort of danger, eg a biting dog. A neighbor had to get a P.O. Box because of this.
WarOnPrivacy 6y ago
Guessing: Perhaps his residence wasn't an address.
- msla 6y ago
  My residence was an address. It was a house with a house number on a named road.
msla 6y ago
> Do you have an address that has been assigned by your county? Have you registered the new address with your USPS? Yes, it's a hard address which the fire department, for example, can use. And the USPS knew about it. > Your mailbox might not be at your drive way, or on your front step, but a mailbox cluster in a central location. My mailbox was in a post office miles away from my house, which I had to pay for. I've since moved.
kodah 6y ago
That computes for me when I lived in a rural area. A lot of commenters came to tout this: > They have the legal obligation to deliver to all addresses. Do you have an address that has been assigned by your county? While that might be true, in practicality it was not. It took me months at two different locations to get USPS to stop screwing things up or to give me access to a cluster. I think a lot of people here have had great experiences with USPS and are unable to imagine geographies where the system doesn't work too well.

dmckeon 6y ago

I have lived at a non-delivery address for the past 5 years. The “every address” myth seems to be propagated by people who support USPS and conflate “we deliver to people all over the US” with “every address”. That sounds similar, but is significantly different, and can be a major pain when dealing with people or businesses that believe the myth, and try to send important paperwork to a physical address, which may end up in our P.o. box if the USPS person handling it recognizes the name and can match it to a box number. Putting both the physical and P.o. box addresses into an address block, in that order, works well, but then shippers can balk at finding a box number. (see also “Falsehoods programmers believe about addresses, etc.”)

jermaustin1 6y ago
If it is a myth, it is propagated by the USPS. They will deliver for every mail address. USPS designated non-deliverable addresses are typically new addresses that haven't been added, or as another commenter posted, an address that is unsafe to deliver. Now, delivering to your mailbox might be a central mail hub that is part of your community/neighborhood, and not directly to your door, but that is still your address's mailbox.
- Rebelgecko 6y ago
  What's the difference between a mail address and a street address?

msla 6y ago

Here's evidence for my claim: https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/when-usps-does-not-deliver-in-rural-areas/145413 https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/when-usps-does-not...