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Yes, of course they do. There was a post on here about a year ago from someone in the "Amazon profitability team" that involved digging through customers AWS in

Yes, of course they do. There was a post on here about a year ago from someone in the "Amazon profitability team" that involved digging through customers AWS instances to see what they could learn or duplicate for Amazon.

alias_neo 5y ago
I'm more than a little disturbed by that response, can you back that bold accusation up with some references? I _need_ to read more about this (about to begin a migration to AWS, not retail though).
- shiftpgdn 5y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19734261 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19734261 https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/news/ovh-ceo-unlike-amazon-google-we-will-never-be-in-competition-with-you/ https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/news/ovh-ceo-unlike-amazo... https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/amazon-literally-stole-my-product-idea-and-took-over-my-listing/323388 https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/amazon-literally-s... https://fortune.com/2016/04/20/amazon-copies-merchants/ https://fortune.com/2016/04/20/amazon-copies-merchants/ https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2019/9/19/20874818/amazon-allbirds-shoe-clone-copy-sneaker-206-collective-private-label https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2019/9/19/20874818/amazon-allb... I can't find the most recent set of posts about peering into customer's AWS instances to research what they could copy but consider that govcloud exists.
  - wrboyce 5y ago
    Am I missing something or do none of these links even mention AWS? I’m also unsure how the explicit trust from the government (“consider that govcloud exists”) is somehow evidence for their untrustworthiness?
  - alias_neo 5y ago
    Thank you for the effort of posting those. Unfortunately they don't really indicate any data being taken from AWS specifically, all of the copying behaviour appears to be Amazon storefront copy-cat tactics. As for govcloud, it exists because regulatory requirements for running things for gov are more strict than your average user/business requires and such cloud offerings require certain levels of hardening and software security and assurances. I happen to work in the space so I understand the need for an alternative offering for government requirements. There's really nothing nefarious going on there and its more about govs not wanting to run alongside regular users. I see nothing concrete I could take to my superiors.
tasssko 5y ago
Source please?

alias_neo 5y ago

I'm more than a little disturbed by that response, can you back that bold accusation up with some references? I _need_ to read more about this (about to begin a migration to AWS, not retail though).

shiftpgdn 5y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19734261 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19734261 https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/news/ovh-ceo-unlike-amazon-google-we-will-never-be-in-competition-with-you/ https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/news/ovh-ceo-unlike-amazo... https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/amazon-literally-stole-my-product-idea-and-took-over-my-listing/323388 https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/amazon-literally-s... https://fortune.com/2016/04/20/amazon-copies-merchants/ https://fortune.com/2016/04/20/amazon-copies-merchants/ https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2019/9/19/20874818/amazon-allbirds-shoe-clone-copy-sneaker-206-collective-private-label https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2019/9/19/20874818/amazon-allb... I can't find the most recent set of posts about peering into customer's AWS instances to research what they could copy but consider that govcloud exists.
- wrboyce 5y ago
  Am I missing something or do none of these links even mention AWS? I’m also unsure how the explicit trust from the government (“consider that govcloud exists”) is somehow evidence for their untrustworthiness?
- alias_neo 5y ago
  Thank you for the effort of posting those. Unfortunately they don't really indicate any data being taken from AWS specifically, all of the copying behaviour appears to be Amazon storefront copy-cat tactics. As for govcloud, it exists because regulatory requirements for running things for gov are more strict than your average user/business requires and such cloud offerings require certain levels of hardening and software security and assurances. I happen to work in the space so I understand the need for an alternative offering for government requirements. There's really nothing nefarious going on there and its more about govs not wanting to run alongside regular users. I see nothing concrete I could take to my superiors.

tasssko 5y ago

Source please?