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Death rate is calculated as deaths per billion miles driven, so I don't see how the respective populations matter here. One could make the argument that populat

Death rate is calculated as deaths per billion miles driven, so I don't see how the respective populations matter here. One could make the argument that population density is important to consider, but in the US the less populated states have higher death rates IIRC.

jcims 5y ago
Where are you getting those stats? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-r... Denmark (like most countries) are definitely better at not getting killed on the road, but closer to a factor of two by miles driven and four per capita.
- bildung 5y ago
  From here (and my number was indeed wrong, its 1/5, not 1/6): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_safety_in_the_United_States#United_States_compared_to_other_nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_safety_in_the_U...
martin8412 5y ago
Don't worry about it to be honest. The guy is just giving the typical American response. Nothing that works in every single other country in the world could possibly work in the US due to their size. Nevermind the fact that it works in less or more populated countries. It just can't possibly work in the US. For other examples look at how the only way to deal with trash in New York is to throw it on the street or how California has huge forest fires almost every year due to powerlines falling.. If only there was a solution to those already solved problems
- LudwigNagasena 5y ago
  No, it is a typical response of a guy who spent two years and countless nights studying econometrics and the issues of specification and identification. But thank you for wrongly assuming my nationality and disregarding my response based on that.
LudwigNagasena 5y ago
> I don't see how the respective populations matter here. They don’t matter per se. It is just a stat I had in my head that I could provide without googling anything to show how different both countries are. There are so many factors to consider with regards to driving infrastructure and habits, even density is not enough.
- bildung 5y ago
  I fully agree, it's really hard to compare things like these across national boundaries. The actual countries don't really matter for the point I tried to make anyway: There are large cross-country differences between countries right now, so it seems prudent to look into those if one wants to decrease traffic deaths. Waiting for L5, even if it actually is achieved in the current AI cycle, will introduce a whole new class of problems once self driving cars become a meaningful share of traffic, e.g. coordination/cooperation between cars and so on.

jcims 5y ago

Where are you getting those stats? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-r... Denmark (like most countries) are definitely better at not getting killed on the road, but closer to a factor of two by miles driven and four per capita.

bildung 5y ago
From here (and my number was indeed wrong, its 1/5, not 1/6): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_safety_in_the_United_States#United_States_compared_to_other_nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_safety_in_the_U...

martin8412 5y ago

Don't worry about it to be honest. The guy is just giving the typical American response. Nothing that works in every single other country in the world could possibly work in the US due to their size. Nevermind the fact that it works in less or more populated countries. It just can't possibly work in the US. For other examples look at how the only way to deal with trash in New York is to throw it on the street or how California has huge forest fires almost every year due to powerlines falling.. If only there was a solution to those already solved problems

LudwigNagasena 5y ago
No, it is a typical response of a guy who spent two years and countless nights studying econometrics and the issues of specification and identification. But thank you for wrongly assuming my nationality and disregarding my response based on that.

LudwigNagasena 5y ago

> I don't see how the respective populations matter here. They don’t matter per se. It is just a stat I had in my head that I could provide without googling anything to show how different both countries are. There are so many factors to consider with regards to driving infrastructure and habits, even density is not enough.

bildung 5y ago
I fully agree, it's really hard to compare things like these across national boundaries. The actual countries don't really matter for the point I tried to make anyway: There are large cross-country differences between countries right now, so it seems prudent to look into those if one wants to decrease traffic deaths. Waiting for L5, even if it actually is achieved in the current AI cycle, will introduce a whole new class of problems once self driving cars become a meaningful share of traffic, e.g. coordination/cooperation between cars and so on.