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It is a tough issue, but I think setting some clear requirements for owning a domain name could go a long way. Restricting domain owners from placing parking pa

by rooshdi 15y ago

It is a tough issue, but I think setting some clear requirements for owning a domain name could go a long way. Restricting domain owners from placing parking pages and requiring them to actively work on an online service, be that a web app, web site, blog, or other online medium which provides sincere value to users. Obviously, these guidelines will go into greater detail and be adjusted as time moves on, but it's better to try to resolve this issue than allow it to continue to deter start-ups.

ohashi 15y ago
That's just nonsense. You were going to fail already if you give up because you cannot find a good domain name. Domains are merely a single tool in a giant toolbox to create successful companies. Just because you don't have the absolute best one shouldn't stop you, and if it does, you're doing it wrong.
- rooshdi 15y ago
  Just because you don't have the absolute best one shouldn't stop you, and if it does, you're doing it wrong. It may not stop you, but the system right now sure doesn't help the situation. Shouldn't we work towards improving it for start-up entrepreneurs instead of just ignoring the problem altogether?
  - ohashi 15y ago
    You have a very narrow lense it seems. You focus solely on one interest group and single purpose while ignoring all the others. I suspect the answer is no, we shouldn't just focus on helping startup entrepreneurs with the domain name system. There are many stakeholders from various backgrounds that all need to be considered before trying to push through one specific and narrow interest group. In theory, that's what icann and specifically the ALAC is for.
    - rooshdi 15y ago
      There are many stakeholders from various backgrounds that all need to be considered before trying to push through one specific and narrow interest group. Yes, each type of "stakeholder" could be reserved a certain type of domain suffix based on their intended purpose of use. These guidelines should of actually been set in place at the onset so we wouldn't have all of the domain squatters we have today. Also, I'd much prefer to discuss potential solutions with you, but I see you've disregarded the notion completely.
      - ohashi 15y ago
        Too late. Trillions of dollars have been spent by the various stakeholders branding .com into the minds of the global audience. You cannot simply undo that. As per my other comment, you're not interested in finding a potential solution. You've got one specific interest and aren't interested in hearing why your solution isn't viable. You simply are waiting for agreement, not a discussion. Here's a solution for startups, use a less than perfect domain until they've proven their worth, got more money and buy a better name. Or, use a lesser extension/subdomain. New gTLDs are around the corner, go pay the 185k fee and get .startup or .beta and create an official startup tld and regulate how you see fit. Let it compete, like a startup should.
        rooshdi 15y ago
        Go pay the 185k fee and get .startup or .beta and create an official startup tld and regulate how you see fit. Let it compete, like a startup should. I'm sorry but most start-ups can't afford 185k for a domain. Plus, re-branding takes another major investment a start-up may not be able to afford. You say "let it compete", but you're defending domain squatters who are making it more difficult to find a good name and market new services to consumers. Hell, there are even some domainers that can't even find a single name for their customer reviews startup. ;)
        ohashi 15y ago
        185k isnt a domain, it's a registry. Buy the rights to the TLD .startup or .beta and compete with .com for startups business. I don't know any domainer in that position. You've really run out of arguments.

by rooshdi 15y ago

ohashi 15y ago

That's just nonsense. You were going to fail already if you give up because you cannot find a good domain name. Domains are merely a single tool in a giant toolbox to create successful companies. Just because you don't have the absolute best one shouldn't stop you, and if it does, you're doing it wrong.

rooshdi 15y ago
Just because you don't have the absolute best one shouldn't stop you, and if it does, you're doing it wrong. It may not stop you, but the system right now sure doesn't help the situation. Shouldn't we work towards improving it for start-up entrepreneurs instead of just ignoring the problem altogether?
- ohashi 15y ago
  You have a very narrow lense it seems. You focus solely on one interest group and single purpose while ignoring all the others. I suspect the answer is no, we shouldn't just focus on helping startup entrepreneurs with the domain name system. There are many stakeholders from various backgrounds that all need to be considered before trying to push through one specific and narrow interest group. In theory, that's what icann and specifically the ALAC is for.
  - rooshdi 15y ago
    There are many stakeholders from various backgrounds that all need to be considered before trying to push through one specific and narrow interest group. Yes, each type of "stakeholder" could be reserved a certain type of domain suffix based on their intended purpose of use. These guidelines should of actually been set in place at the onset so we wouldn't have all of the domain squatters we have today. Also, I'd much prefer to discuss potential solutions with you, but I see you've disregarded the notion completely.
    - ohashi 15y ago
      Too late. Trillions of dollars have been spent by the various stakeholders branding .com into the minds of the global audience. You cannot simply undo that. As per my other comment, you're not interested in finding a potential solution. You've got one specific interest and aren't interested in hearing why your solution isn't viable. You simply are waiting for agreement, not a discussion. Here's a solution for startups, use a less than perfect domain until they've proven their worth, got more money and buy a better name. Or, use a lesser extension/subdomain. New gTLDs are around the corner, go pay the 185k fee and get .startup or .beta and create an official startup tld and regulate how you see fit. Let it compete, like a startup should.
      - rooshdi 15y ago
        Go pay the 185k fee and get .startup or .beta and create an official startup tld and regulate how you see fit. Let it compete, like a startup should. I'm sorry but most start-ups can't afford 185k for a domain. Plus, re-branding takes another major investment a start-up may not be able to afford. You say "let it compete", but you're defending domain squatters who are making it more difficult to find a good name and market new services to consumers. Hell, there are even some domainers that can't even find a single name for their customer reviews startup. ;)
        ohashi 15y ago
        185k isnt a domain, it's a registry. Buy the rights to the TLD .startup or .beta and compete with .com for startups business. I don't know any domainer in that position. You've really run out of arguments.