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Is that very different from "Whenever I find a site hosted through CloudFlare, I look up the origin server's IP address and link to that. Webservers deserve tra

Is that very different from "Whenever I find a site hosted through CloudFlare, I look up the origin server's IP address and link to that. Webservers deserve traffic, not CDNs."?

roofwellhams 5y ago
If Google decided to remove your link, then it's gone. If cloudflare removes your link, you can easily just change provider.
ericyan 5y ago
Unlike a normal CDN, AMP does not serve the same content as the origin. You need to make a special, lite edition of the original web page which does not work on Safari or Firefox, and may not necessarily make your site faster. [1] You cannot switch AMP cache to another vendor if you want Google rank your AMP site higher. [2] You also need a speical TLS certificate with the CanSignHttpExchanges extension that can only be get from DigiCert (for a price)[3] and not from Let's Encrypt [4]. [1] https://unlikekinds.com/article/google-amp-page-speed https://unlikekinds.com/article/google-amp-page-speed [2] https://stackoverflow.com/a/41683427 https://stackoverflow.com/a/41683427 [3] https://web.dev/how-to-set-up-signed-http-exchanges/#step-1 https://web.dev/how-to-set-up-signed-http-exchanges/#step-1 [4] https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/cansignhttpexchanges-extension/90658 https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/cansignhttpexchanges-ext...
- Jyaif 5y ago
  > You need to make a special, lite edition of the original web page which does not work on Safari or Firefox AMP being a subset of HTML, that does not look accurate.
  - ericyan 5y ago
    It is not just about the markup. Mozilla and Apple made it very clear they won't implement this (for good): https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5745285984681984 https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5745285984681984
shakna 5y ago
Yes. Google are facing many lawsuits that suggest that AMP manipulated the ads platforms, in their favour. Using a different CDN shouldn't significantly impact a site's income, but using AMP may have.
devit 5y ago
You can't do that, assuming that it was set up properly (i.e. they either set up CloudFlare immediately without disclosing the server IPs in the first place, or blocked all non-CloudFlare traffic on the firewall).

Is that very different from "Whenever I find a site hosted through CloudFlare, I look up the origin server's IP address and link to that. Webservers deserve traffic, not CDNs."?

roofwellhams 5y ago

If Google decided to remove your link, then it's gone. If cloudflare removes your link, you can easily just change provider.

ericyan 5y ago

Unlike a normal CDN, AMP does not serve the same content as the origin. You need to make a special, lite edition of the original web page which does not work on Safari or Firefox, and may not necessarily make your site faster. [1] You cannot switch AMP cache to another vendor if you want Google rank your AMP site higher. [2] You also need a speical TLS certificate with the CanSignHttpExchanges extension that can only be get from DigiCert (for a price)[3] and not from Let's Encrypt [4]. [1] https://unlikekinds.com/article/google-amp-page-speed https://unlikekinds.com/article/google-amp-page-speed [2] https://stackoverflow.com/a/41683427 https://stackoverflow.com/a/41683427 [3] https://web.dev/how-to-set-up-signed-http-exchanges/#step-1 https://web.dev/how-to-set-up-signed-http-exchanges/#step-1 [4] https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/cansignhttpexchanges-extension/90658 https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/cansignhttpexchanges-ext...

Jyaif 5y ago
> You need to make a special, lite edition of the original web page which does not work on Safari or Firefox AMP being a subset of HTML, that does not look accurate.
- ericyan 5y ago
  It is not just about the markup. Mozilla and Apple made it very clear they won't implement this (for good): https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5745285984681984 https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5745285984681984

shakna 5y ago

Yes. Google are facing many lawsuits that suggest that AMP manipulated the ads platforms, in their favour. Using a different CDN shouldn't significantly impact a site's income, but using AMP may have.

devit 5y ago

You can't do that, assuming that it was set up properly (i.e. they either set up CloudFlare immediately without disclosing the server IPs in the first place, or blocked all non-CloudFlare traffic on the firewall).