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protonmail has pgp integrated, which is very nice.

fogihujy 5y ago
Doesn't matter in the larger scheme of things, unless Hotmail and Gmail implement it too. Also: easy migration paths that includes secure key transfers. Average Joe simply isn't technical or motivated enough to do it on their own.
- jibanes 5y ago
  coupled with protonmail's "enterprise" offering, it makes complete sense (they can host entire domains obviously).
  - fogihujy 5y ago
    Absolutely! There's nothing wrong with Protonmail's offering, it's just that the other players' dominance will keep that offering from becoming mainstream. If Gmail started supporting GPG then pretty much everyone would implement it.
    - BelenusMordred 5y ago
      Anyone have an rough estimate on the losses from Google not being able to read gmail anymore?
      - bluebirdfirewin 5y ago
        Google would not give the keys to the users, so they would still technically be able to decrypt your emails. I don't think they would implement a security feature that is based on user password (in protonmail you loose your mails if you loose your password).
libx 5y ago
Maybe you do not know about this https://privacy-watchdog.io/truth-about-protonmail/ https://privacy-watchdog.io/truth-about-protonmail/
- dngray 5y ago
  That blog's author also suffers from obvious mental issues if you look at any of the articles on it. Nearly everything he says there is not substantiated. The links don't actually support his arguments, and in fact disprove them in some cases. In one case he accused Disroot of DDoSing his crappy blog because they wouldn't deny some claim he made that they probably didn't even know about. He used to post it in /r/privacytoolsio until we banned him for low quality posting.. That article is here: https://privacy-watchdog.io/the-truth-about-disroot-org/ https://privacy-watchdog.io/the-truth-about-disroot-org/ He then wrote an article accusing us (privacytools.io) of being paid $11 a month by ProtonMail because we "censored" him. That article is here: https://privacy-watchdog.io/privacytools-io-censors-true-information/ https://privacy-watchdog.io/privacytools-io-censors-true-inf...
- negroni 5y ago
  Well this is disappointing...

Doesn't matter in the larger scheme of things, unless Hotmail and Gmail implement it too. Also: easy migration paths that includes secure key transfers. Average Joe simply isn't technical or motivated enough to do it on their own.

jibanes 5y ago
coupled with protonmail's "enterprise" offering, it makes complete sense (they can host entire domains obviously).
- fogihujy 5y ago
  Absolutely! There's nothing wrong with Protonmail's offering, it's just that the other players' dominance will keep that offering from becoming mainstream. If Gmail started supporting GPG then pretty much everyone would implement it.
  - BelenusMordred 5y ago
    Anyone have an rough estimate on the losses from Google not being able to read gmail anymore?
    - bluebirdfirewin 5y ago
      Google would not give the keys to the users, so they would still technically be able to decrypt your emails. I don't think they would implement a security feature that is based on user password (in protonmail you loose your mails if you loose your password).

libx 5y ago

Maybe you do not know about this https://privacy-watchdog.io/truth-about-protonmail/ https://privacy-watchdog.io/truth-about-protonmail/

dngray 5y ago
That blog's author also suffers from obvious mental issues if you look at any of the articles on it. Nearly everything he says there is not substantiated. The links don't actually support his arguments, and in fact disprove them in some cases. In one case he accused Disroot of DDoSing his crappy blog because they wouldn't deny some claim he made that they probably didn't even know about. He used to post it in /r/privacytoolsio until we banned him for low quality posting.. That article is here: https://privacy-watchdog.io/the-truth-about-disroot-org/ https://privacy-watchdog.io/the-truth-about-disroot-org/ He then wrote an article accusing us (privacytools.io) of being paid $11 a month by ProtonMail because we "censored" him. That article is here: https://privacy-watchdog.io/privacytools-io-censors-true-information/ https://privacy-watchdog.io/privacytools-io-censors-true-inf...
negroni 5y ago
Well this is disappointing...