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It’s really pretty cheap. The cost of the electricity is less than the fully burdened cost of a parking space; certainly than a full garage space. And people al
by Robotbeat 6y ago
It’s really pretty cheap. The cost of the electricity is less than the fully burdened cost of a parking space; certainly than a full garage space. And people already have to pay for that. So if it was normalized (ie everyone did it, not just 5% of renters), then it wouldn’t be a problem as you just roll that into the rent for the spot. And if it was significant they could add a cheap submeter or a timed smart outlet (there’s a startup opportunity here, BTW...).
- cortesoft 6y agoMy EV gets about 2.5 miles per KWH, if I drive conservatively. If I commute 25 miles daily, that would be 10 KWH a day, which is about $2.00 a day depending on a number of factors. $60 a month is a lot, and you know people would drive more if they weren't paying for the energy. Not to mention, you would need to upgrade your circuits if everyone was charging.
- Robotbeat 6y agoElectricity where I live is about 13¢/kWh residential, but large property owners may pay commercial rates for their garages which is cheaper. In large cities, a parking space in a garage is about $150/month. So still much more than electricity. And I don’t think people would drive a lot more if electricity was free versus 13¢/kWh. At that point, electricity cost is a small part of the cost of driving.
- cortesoft 6y agoI think an extra almost 50% cost for parking would be a pretty big deal. And most people in apartments aren't paying that much. I am sure for luxury apartments with high rents and parking fees won't notice the difference, but most apartments aren't like that.
- Robotbeat 6y agoThe increased cost is swamped by lower gas costs. Gas is two to three times the price plus takes time out of the week to fill up.
- cortesoft 6y agoRight... but landlords don’t pay those gas costs. I am not arguing that an electric car is not cheaper to drive than a gas car (I have one myself)....I am just saying it isn’t free or near free, so expecting someone else to pay for your electricity to charge your car is unreasonable.
- Robotbeat 6y agoHow much is the typical heat bill? It's on the same order.
- cortesoft 6y agoEvery apartment I have lived in I paid my own gas and electric bill, which was metered just for my own apartment.
- Robotbeat 6y agoI think breaking out metered heat is uncommon for small apartment unit in large apartment buildings. Or at least it was when I rented. And if electricity is already metered, then this shouldn’t be a problem...
- cortesoft 6y agoThe original comment talked about apartment buildings not letting people charge their cars in the garage. Those outlets are usually not tied to the specific apartment building, so it isn’t going to be charged to their account.
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- dublin 6y agoMaybe I don't want to (further) subsidize your vanity choice of vehicular power. The very worst thing about EV owners/advocates is the suffocating cloud of smug that they spew everywhere they go, whether in the car or not.
- Robotbeat 6y agoI’m subsidizing your emissions externality.