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For full function, the ideal citizen filming app should: -- record audio and video -- upload it on-the-fly (as it is being recorded) automatically -- keep re

For full function, the ideal citizen filming app should: -- record audio and video -- upload it on-the-fly (as it is being recorded) automatically -- keep recording when the phone is locked or otherwise off/inaccessible to others, as it may be taken away from you Openwatch meets 1 of those requirements. Still waiting for something that meets all 3...

Joakal 15y ago
Also strip personally identifying information for immediate anonymity. A phone serial could be embedded or at least a phone make (mine does phone make. Flickr enjoys this btw). Combine that with who owns the phone serial or used phone make in the area (apparently some phones broadcast such information) and the person can be identified.
- Natsu 15y ago
  > Also strip personally identifying information for immediate anonymity. I question just how anonymous a recording of your interaction with the police can be made. Surely the officers in question will recognize recordings of themselves and have records of just who all they pulled over that day?
  - Joakal 15y ago
    It's more about capturing something that someone does not want to be seen and later traceable back to you because you didn't know about your phone embedding data into pictures. Say for example, you caught me killing a puppy with your camera phone. I'm your neighbour so you post the picture online with a hint to location via an anonymous account through many proxies. There's newspaper frontpage outrage and I'm outraged. I investigate and look at the picture file. Lo and behold, I recognise the camera make as yours and know who it is. So it's not only police that you want to protect yourself from. Disclaimer: I like puppies though :(
lego606 15y ago
Look at the site - he's looking for volunteers to help get that functionality in.
snprbob86 15y ago
http://qik.com/ http://qik.com/ does at least the first two. Not sure about the 3rd.
- karzeem 15y ago
  It stops recording when the phone is locked. But I'd imagine that as long as it's recording, the phone wouldn't go into lock mode unless you specifically told it to. The good news is that even if someone takes your phone and deletes the video, you can email Qik to recover whatever portion of the video was uploaded to their servers before the deletion.
  - furyg3 15y ago
    But I'd imagine that as long as it's recording, the phone wouldn't go into lock mode unless you specifically told it to. That's the thing... you want it to. If you're pulled over by the police you want to 1) start recording, 2) start uploading to a server in some other jurisdiction 3) Lock your phone so that police can't see that it's recording/uploading, 4) the power-off button is disabled. A police officer noticing your phone during an arrest and clicking on "stop recording" is a totally different situation than him asking you for your password.

Joakal 15y ago

Also strip personally identifying information for immediate anonymity. A phone serial could be embedded or at least a phone make (mine does phone make. Flickr enjoys this btw). Combine that with who owns the phone serial or used phone make in the area (apparently some phones broadcast such information) and the person can be identified.

Natsu 15y ago
> Also strip personally identifying information for immediate anonymity. I question just how anonymous a recording of your interaction with the police can be made. Surely the officers in question will recognize recordings of themselves and have records of just who all they pulled over that day?
- Joakal 15y ago
  It's more about capturing something that someone does not want to be seen and later traceable back to you because you didn't know about your phone embedding data into pictures. Say for example, you caught me killing a puppy with your camera phone. I'm your neighbour so you post the picture online with a hint to location via an anonymous account through many proxies. There's newspaper frontpage outrage and I'm outraged. I investigate and look at the picture file. Lo and behold, I recognise the camera make as yours and know who it is. So it's not only police that you want to protect yourself from. Disclaimer: I like puppies though :(

lego606 15y ago

Look at the site - he's looking for volunteers to help get that functionality in.

snprbob86 15y ago

http://qik.com/ http://qik.com/ does at least the first two. Not sure about the 3rd.

karzeem 15y ago
It stops recording when the phone is locked. But I'd imagine that as long as it's recording, the phone wouldn't go into lock mode unless you specifically told it to. The good news is that even if someone takes your phone and deletes the video, you can email Qik to recover whatever portion of the video was uploaded to their servers before the deletion.
- furyg3 15y ago
  But I'd imagine that as long as it's recording, the phone wouldn't go into lock mode unless you specifically told it to. That's the thing... you want it to. If you're pulled over by the police you want to 1) start recording, 2) start uploading to a server in some other jurisdiction 3) Lock your phone so that police can't see that it's recording/uploading, 4) the power-off button is disabled. A police officer noticing your phone during an arrest and clicking on "stop recording" is a totally different situation than him asking you for your password.