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The thing is, all of it is garbage compared to appliances from 20 yrs ago before mfgr's started designing everything to planned obsolescence and IoT. American

by kirse 5y ago

The thing is, all of it is garbage compared to appliances from 20 yrs ago before mfgr's started designing everything to planned obsolescence and IoT. American GE at least has an extensive parts network in country, while if your LG/Samsung breaks at this point you are basically SOL. On top of that the COVID-19 supply shock issues have exacerbated this situation.

reaperducer 5y ago
American GE at least has an extensive parts network in country Maytag, too. I had no problem finding Maytag parts recently.
- imglorp 5y ago
  The US brands have that. There's several good third party sites that have parts for most of this junk. I've saved a number of appliances with a $5 part. appliancepartspros.com comes to mind.
dzhiurgis 5y ago
I wouldn't mind IoT that electronically diagnoses and finds the part I need to replace. Maybe notification when was is done, but thats minor. In a small house can hear beep anyway.
crooked-v 5y ago
> all of it is garbage compared to appliances from 20 yrs ago There were garbage appliances 20 years ago, too... you just don't see them around anymore because they already broke down long ago.
m463 5y ago
IoT is the worst. It's only convenient if you turn over your email address, all your device ids, your SSN, and your 1040 AGI. Otherwise you'll need to dismiss 20 nag popups before you can do anything.
- Breza 5y ago
  Not to mention the very real risk of a company going under (as the article notes) or simply ending support for your product. How many consumer IoT products are going to be bricked in the next decade?
EricE 5y ago
>American GE No longer exists - sold to the Chinese: https://news.yahoo.com/ge-sells-appliance-business-chinas-qingdao-haier-5-092618139.html https://news.yahoo.com/ge-sells-appliance-business-chinas-qi... I have a few LG appliances and while just a few years back finding parts for them would have been a challenge, it no longer is - there are several places online that specialize in them and I find it no harder to find parts for them as I do my few remaining GE appliances (that I have relatively few complaints about - heck my dishwasher is 15 years old at this point). Love my LG front load washer/dryer though. Doesn't shake the house down on the spin cycle like the Duet HT it replaced and does the best job of rinsing out of any washer I have ever used - even the 1970's top loaders that used 20+ gallons per wash/rinse cycle that I grew up with :p

by kirse 5y ago

reaperducer 5y ago

American GE at least has an extensive parts network in country Maytag, too. I had no problem finding Maytag parts recently.

imglorp 5y ago
The US brands have that. There's several good third party sites that have parts for most of this junk. I've saved a number of appliances with a $5 part. appliancepartspros.com comes to mind.

dzhiurgis 5y ago

I wouldn't mind IoT that electronically diagnoses and finds the part I need to replace. Maybe notification when was is done, but thats minor. In a small house can hear beep anyway.

crooked-v 5y ago

> all of it is garbage compared to appliances from 20 yrs ago There were garbage appliances 20 years ago, too... you just don't see them around anymore because they already broke down long ago.

m463 5y ago

IoT is the worst. It's only convenient if you turn over your email address, all your device ids, your SSN, and your 1040 AGI. Otherwise you'll need to dismiss 20 nag popups before you can do anything.

Breza 5y ago
Not to mention the very real risk of a company going under (as the article notes) or simply ending support for your product. How many consumer IoT products are going to be bricked in the next decade?

EricE 5y ago

>American GE No longer exists - sold to the Chinese: https://news.yahoo.com/ge-sells-appliance-business-chinas-qingdao-haier-5-092618139.html https://news.yahoo.com/ge-sells-appliance-business-chinas-qi... I have a few LG appliances and while just a few years back finding parts for them would have been a challenge, it no longer is - there are several places online that specialize in them and I find it no harder to find parts for them as I do my few remaining GE appliances (that I have relatively few complaints about - heck my dishwasher is 15 years old at this point). Love my LG front load washer/dryer though. Doesn't shake the house down on the spin cycle like the Duet HT it replaced and does the best job of rinsing out of any washer I have ever used - even the 1970's top loaders that used 20+ gallons per wash/rinse cycle that I grew up with :p