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If you were making a deposit on a Roadster you were probably already a millionaire (initial deposit was 250k). Also, in an index fund doing 7-8% interest you co

If you were making a deposit on a Roadster you were probably already a millionaire (initial deposit was 250k). Also, in an index fund doing 7-8% interest you couldn’t even double that 250k in 5 years. It’s not really fair to make that statement based on actual performance. Your other claims are accurate, but do people care? Tesla fans have shown a lot of patience and they have always delivered eventually. On everything but FSD.

Hamuko 5y ago
>Tesla fans have shown a lot of patience and they have always delivered eventually. On everything but FSD. What happened to the battery swaps and tentacle porn charging cable?
- bitexploder 5y ago
  No idea. I only follow things at a high level. Wife likes her Model 3. Great performance and value for the price. She hasn’t tried autopilot once and we never paid for FSD. I don’t think the market really cares about FSD. Tesla is the first modern and new auto maker in decades to really see any significant cultural and market penetration. I’ll give Elon a pass, or rather Tesla a pass for Elon’s overhyping everything. What they have done and delivered is quite amazing to me.
- nickik 5y ago
  The cable was never a product. It was basically R&D project. Battery swap works fine on early Model S but they changed strategy very quickly after showing it off. It was only ever announced as a pilot program. It just doesn't make sense and they rather invested in Superchargers. All cars after Model S were not announced to be able do do swapping. Even on the Model S the added a shield under the car to protect the battery even if you drive big debris at high speed. Seems like these are kind pedantic examples.
dragonwriter 5y ago
> Tesla fans have shown a lot of patience and they have always delivered eventually. And a bunch of other things (many mentioned innthe post you respond to), that may or may not get delivered in the future, but factually have nor yet been delivered. I mean, Tesla’s still better than Möller, but...
jjeaff 5y ago
You are talking average returns. $250k in the s&p 500 in 2015 with dividends reinvested would in fact be worth about $500k today.
- bitexploder 5y ago
  Average returns are what you should base a decision like that on right? Looking back it’s easy. But you can’t assume outsize performance when making such a decision.

Hamuko 5y ago

>Tesla fans have shown a lot of patience and they have always delivered eventually. On everything but FSD. What happened to the battery swaps and tentacle porn charging cable?

bitexploder 5y ago
No idea. I only follow things at a high level. Wife likes her Model 3. Great performance and value for the price. She hasn’t tried autopilot once and we never paid for FSD. I don’t think the market really cares about FSD. Tesla is the first modern and new auto maker in decades to really see any significant cultural and market penetration. I’ll give Elon a pass, or rather Tesla a pass for Elon’s overhyping everything. What they have done and delivered is quite amazing to me.
nickik 5y ago
The cable was never a product. It was basically R&D project. Battery swap works fine on early Model S but they changed strategy very quickly after showing it off. It was only ever announced as a pilot program. It just doesn't make sense and they rather invested in Superchargers. All cars after Model S were not announced to be able do do swapping. Even on the Model S the added a shield under the car to protect the battery even if you drive big debris at high speed. Seems like these are kind pedantic examples.

dragonwriter 5y ago

> Tesla fans have shown a lot of patience and they have always delivered eventually. And a bunch of other things (many mentioned innthe post you respond to), that may or may not get delivered in the future, but factually have nor yet been delivered. I mean, Tesla’s still better than Möller, but...

jjeaff 5y ago

You are talking average returns. $250k in the s&p 500 in 2015 with dividends reinvested would in fact be worth about $500k today.

bitexploder 5y ago
Average returns are what you should base a decision like that on right? Looking back it’s easy. But you can’t assume outsize performance when making such a decision.