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I think the biggest dark pattern is social platforms holding the browser hostage instead of opening content in the users native browser app. Social media sites

I think the biggest dark pattern is social platforms holding the browser hostage instead of opening content in the users native browser app. Social media sites are built on user generated content. By keeping users in the app like this it puts the website at an inherent disadvantage and prevents them from providing a compelling first class experience that might compete with facebook for attention, due to their inherent parent child ui design. Anti trust regulators came after Microsoft for deep bundling of functionality of browser and OS and I think they should do the same for facebook, google, reddit, etc. for the web view.

fpig 5y ago
What is good about web sites trying to force users to use their app instead? That itself one of the worst dark patterns out there. Edit: If my comment looks confusing, the comment I replied to has been edited. "compelling first class experience" is really a more vague term for "web sites being able to push their app on users"
- dclusin 5y ago
  While I agree this is a regrettable practice, the social media sites in question do the same thing too. The argument that Facebook is acting in users best interest by preventing websites from spamming users to use an app is incredibly self serving and not really all that believable. I too wish it would go away, but both sites not having equal access the users in a similar way is anti competitive imo. Especially for businesses who increasingly need to participate on these platforms due to the fact that so many of their customers use their services.
  - fpig 5y ago
    I agree that this practice should go away - if you believe that, then the goal should be to eliminate this shady practice entirely, not try to make it more prevalent like you were suggesting before editing your comment.
    - dclusin 5y ago
      Agreed, sorry for editing after you replied.
- bogwog 5y ago
  > What is good about web sites trying to force users to use their app instead? If you're asking from the point of view of the social media site, the "good" thing is that a native app can steal much more personal information than a website.
  - Xavdidtheshadow 5y ago
    Also (at least on iOS), content blockers don't work in the in-app browsers that FB uses. It's coded differently than a SafariWebView (which _does_ get the content blockers). Being an ad company, it makes sense that they don't want users doing that.
devit 5y ago
The Facebook app on my Android device doesn't do this.
m463 5y ago
All the video conferencing apps do this - Teams or Webex always try to download the app before they give you the option of using the browser unless you carefully navigate things.

fpig 5y ago

What is good about web sites trying to force users to use their app instead? That itself one of the worst dark patterns out there. Edit: If my comment looks confusing, the comment I replied to has been edited. "compelling first class experience" is really a more vague term for "web sites being able to push their app on users"

dclusin 5y ago
While I agree this is a regrettable practice, the social media sites in question do the same thing too. The argument that Facebook is acting in users best interest by preventing websites from spamming users to use an app is incredibly self serving and not really all that believable. I too wish it would go away, but both sites not having equal access the users in a similar way is anti competitive imo. Especially for businesses who increasingly need to participate on these platforms due to the fact that so many of their customers use their services.
- fpig 5y ago
  I agree that this practice should go away - if you believe that, then the goal should be to eliminate this shady practice entirely, not try to make it more prevalent like you were suggesting before editing your comment.
  - dclusin 5y ago
    Agreed, sorry for editing after you replied.
bogwog 5y ago
> What is good about web sites trying to force users to use their app instead? If you're asking from the point of view of the social media site, the "good" thing is that a native app can steal much more personal information than a website.
- Xavdidtheshadow 5y ago
  Also (at least on iOS), content blockers don't work in the in-app browsers that FB uses. It's coded differently than a SafariWebView (which _does_ get the content blockers). Being an ad company, it makes sense that they don't want users doing that.

devit 5y ago

The Facebook app on my Android device doesn't do this.

m463 5y ago

All the video conferencing apps do this - Teams or Webex always try to download the app before they give you the option of using the browser unless you carefully navigate things.