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This is about SNMP, and says nothing about SMTP.
by networkimprov 5y ago
This is about SNMP, and says nothing about SMTP.
- iso1210 5y agoThe link does say >>> 2021-05-01 simple as in smtp I suspect the idea is that neither smtp nor snmp are simple when you dig down, despite the name. And I'd agree with the article, mibs can be maddening And for snmpv3: "if you are using SNMPv3 where the authentication and configuration can be amazingly, maddeningly complex for some vendors." Indeed
- wpietri 5y agoThat could be, but I'd rather they made the case. When SMTP came out, it was indeed very simple. In college in the 1980s, I could send email just by doing something like: % telnet mail.umich.edu 25 MAIL FROM: <william@umich.edu> RCPT TO: <joe.blow@umich.edu> DATA From: William Pietri <william@umich.edu> To: My Skeptical Friend <joe.blow@umich.edu> Subject: Who needs a mail client? You can send email without a mail client! . It's harder now, because spammers. But to me it's amazing that something like has been working for nearly 40 years. For perspective, it came out the same year as the Commodore 64. The curious can read the inital RFC: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc821 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc821
- networkimprov 5y ago> because spammers And because cybercrime, which is now doing staggering damage, much of it initiated via SMTP. SMTP was designed when the Internet's topology and population were vastly different, and we desperately need to replace it, e.g. with TMTP from the "mnm" open source project (my work): https://mnmnotmail.org/ https://mnmnotmail.org/
- anoncake 5y agoIf you need to spam this everywhere, please at least disclose that it's your project.
- wpietri 5y agoWow, it really is most of his posting history. How tiresome.
- networkimprov 5y agoSorry folks, I thought it was OK to resubmit links that didn't make the front page. I never got a "Show HN" link on the prestigious Show page because someone else posted it and made the front page. So I tried some other URLs. I don't think there's an issue with posting relevant comments with a link, but I agree I should disclose authorship. --- Flagged post above --- And because cybercrime, which is now doing staggering damage, much of it initiated via SMTP. SMTP was designed when the Internet's topology and population were vastly different, and we desperately need to replace it, e.g. with TMTP from the "mnm" open source project: [link]
- wpietri 5y agoThere is definitely an issue with posting your project over and over and over, because that's a sign you see it as relevant even when other people don't. That's certainly the case here. If you wanted to make the "and cybercrime" point, there are a zillion more relevant links than yours. That looks like spammer behavior to me, which makes your desire to replace email absurd.
- jcrawfordor 5y agoI made a stupid typo, once SMTP gets in your brain it's hard to get it to rattle its way back out I guess. It's corrected now but the old link continues to work.
- berkes 5y agoI have the same with use, which apparently I cannot type without the r as in user. And intern, which my brain insists on autocorrecting to internet.
- frereubu 5y agoLikewise, I cannot write "director" without extending it by a letter into "directory".
- osullip 5y agoOff topic, but did you get style inspiration from b3ta.com? https://b3ta.com/newsletter/issue768/ https://b3ta.com/newsletter/issue768/
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- dang 5y agoChanged above. Thanks!
- tuatoru 5y agoExcept now it says SMNP, not SNMP.
- dang 5y agoOosp! Fixed now.
- jcrawfordor 5y agoSee?! I'm not the only one! :)