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The article mentions 2 apps, but I'm sure these are not the only ones. It would be nice to know about others too. One note of caution, though: some states are

by ajays 15y ago

The article mentions 2 apps, but I'm sure these are not the only ones. It would be nice to know about others too. One note of caution, though: some states are 2-party consent states, which means, both parties have to consent to an audio recording. If you happen to be in one of those states, and the cops find out that you've been recording them, you can be in deep trouble. On the other hand, sometimes just recording the cops in plain sight can get you into trouble, as evidenced by Emily Good's arrest in Rochester, NY. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110625/NEWS01/106250325/Activist-stunned-by-after-effects-of-event?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|NEWS http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110625/NEWS01/...

Xurinos 15y ago
Does that apply to activity recorded in a public area?
- ajays 15y ago
  I'm not a lawyer, but: the cops can still hassle you even if you know you're in the right. Consider this case: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2010-05-08/news/bs-md-hermann-police-wiretap-20100508_1_state-trooper-graber-s-case-camera http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2010-05-08/news/bs-md-herma... Eventually a judge ruled for him, but imagine the heartburn over the prospect of going to jail for 15 years. Some cops do not like being video-taped even in public. Some will even pull a gun on you to intimidate you: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/06/02/v-fullstory/2248396/witnesses-said-they-were-forced.html http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/06/02/v-fullstory/2248396/wi...
- TruthElixirX 15y ago
  Just depends. The cops will still screw with you, hence, "You can beat the rap but you can't be the ride."
- Joakal 15y ago
  I read a case that if you look like you're recording everything in general, the people being recorded give permission to be recorded in public space. I think it was aimed at protecting journalists though.
ldar15 15y ago
"some states are 2-party consent states, which means, both parties have to consent to an audio recording." IANAL, but I believe that there is no state where this applies to public recording. The issue is "expectation of privacy". http://www.rcfp.org/taping/consent.html http://www.rcfp.org/taping/consent.html In the rochester case, the public servant informed Ms Good that they did not feel safe, and then used the "refusal to obey a police instruction" as the crime. However, citizens are only required to obey lawful instructions. I do not believe that the instruction was lawful. Until our public servants in law enforcement are educated on the matter of law, a citizen will be taking a risk in exercising their rights. I believe that it is our duty to do so.

by ajays 15y ago

Xurinos 15y ago

Does that apply to activity recorded in a public area?

ajays 15y ago
I'm not a lawyer, but: the cops can still hassle you even if you know you're in the right. Consider this case: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2010-05-08/news/bs-md-hermann-police-wiretap-20100508_1_state-trooper-graber-s-case-camera http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2010-05-08/news/bs-md-herma... Eventually a judge ruled for him, but imagine the heartburn over the prospect of going to jail for 15 years. Some cops do not like being video-taped even in public. Some will even pull a gun on you to intimidate you: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/06/02/v-fullstory/2248396/witnesses-said-they-were-forced.html http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/06/02/v-fullstory/2248396/wi...
TruthElixirX 15y ago
Just depends. The cops will still screw with you, hence, "You can beat the rap but you can't be the ride."
Joakal 15y ago
I read a case that if you look like you're recording everything in general, the people being recorded give permission to be recorded in public space. I think it was aimed at protecting journalists though.

ldar15 15y ago

"some states are 2-party consent states, which means, both parties have to consent to an audio recording." IANAL, but I believe that there is no state where this applies to public recording. The issue is "expectation of privacy". http://www.rcfp.org/taping/consent.html http://www.rcfp.org/taping/consent.html In the rochester case, the public servant informed Ms Good that they did not feel safe, and then used the "refusal to obey a police instruction" as the crime. However, citizens are only required to obey lawful instructions. I do not believe that the instruction was lawful. Until our public servants in law enforcement are educated on the matter of law, a citizen will be taking a risk in exercising their rights. I believe that it is our duty to do so.