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> That’s why they’ve excelled in font rendering, colour accuracy, sound fidelity, and input-lag. That'll be why mac laptops connect to bluetooth speakers using

> That’s why they’ve excelled in font rendering, colour accuracy, sound fidelity, and input-lag. That'll be why mac laptops connect to bluetooth speakers using the worst default settings for sound fidelity so it sounds like a dying frog. And the input lag is quite terrible when the machine is under any load.

fastball 5y ago
I'm sure that will be fixed once Apple inevitably starts building their own Bluetooth chipsets.
- gumby 5y ago
  > you’ll have to wait until 2015: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple-designed_processors#W_series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple-designed_processors#W_se...
  - fastball 5y ago
    * for computers. From what I've heard, their chipsets don't have the same problems as the ones they use in macs.
    - dangus 5y ago
      The M1 Macs are essentially iPhone/iPad hardware. The latest iPad Pro shares the same M1 chip, and I imagine it shares most other components as well.
      - fastball 5y ago
        Right, but the wifi+bt chip is still Broadcom.
        saagarjha 5y ago
        Rumor has it that this might be changing soon.
dijit 5y ago
Input lag on an iPhone or an iPad is best in class. The Mac leaves much to be desired. I have never had an issue with Bluetooth on the Mac. Maybe there’s issues if you’re doing audio recording on the headset, but that’s a limitation of bluetooth 4 and would be similar on Linux or Windows. My Linux laptop likes to negotiate HSP (low quality but with audio recording) over HSDP (high quality) with my Bose QC35s, but the Mac is quite happy to dynamically switch as needed.
- ryneandal 5y ago
  I've tried to use the mic on my airpods with my windows desktop once -- Bluetooth 4 mic output _definitely_ sounds like what he's describing. It's godawful and certainly an effective way to mete out punishment to those vendors you dislike via conference call. It's an immediate headache.
- fnord123 5y ago
  Default bitpools on mac are very low for audio ime. To fix it, you can run the following: https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/5rfdj6/pro_tip_significantly_improve_bluetooth_audio/ https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/5rfdj6/pro_tip_signi...

fastball 5y ago

I'm sure that will be fixed once Apple inevitably starts building their own Bluetooth chipsets.

gumby 5y ago
> you’ll have to wait until 2015: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple-designed_processors#W_series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple-designed_processors#W_se...
- fastball 5y ago
  * for computers. From what I've heard, their chipsets don't have the same problems as the ones they use in macs.
  - dangus 5y ago
    The M1 Macs are essentially iPhone/iPad hardware. The latest iPad Pro shares the same M1 chip, and I imagine it shares most other components as well.
    - fastball 5y ago
      Right, but the wifi+bt chip is still Broadcom.
      - saagarjha 5y ago
        Rumor has it that this might be changing soon.

dijit 5y ago

Input lag on an iPhone or an iPad is best in class. The Mac leaves much to be desired. I have never had an issue with Bluetooth on the Mac. Maybe there’s issues if you’re doing audio recording on the headset, but that’s a limitation of bluetooth 4 and would be similar on Linux or Windows. My Linux laptop likes to negotiate HSP (low quality but with audio recording) over HSDP (high quality) with my Bose QC35s, but the Mac is quite happy to dynamically switch as needed.

ryneandal 5y ago
I've tried to use the mic on my airpods with my windows desktop once -- Bluetooth 4 mic output _definitely_ sounds like what he's describing. It's godawful and certainly an effective way to mete out punishment to those vendors you dislike via conference call. It's an immediate headache.
fnord123 5y ago
Default bitpools on mac are very low for audio ime. To fix it, you can run the following: https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/5rfdj6/pro_tip_significantly_improve_bluetooth_audio/ https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/5rfdj6/pro_tip_signi...