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> This is just asking for payment for the software to not do something to your machine. I think you’re underestimating the cost for a business to support clien

> This is just asking for payment for the software to not do something to your machine. I think you’re underestimating the cost for a business to support clients that do not upgrade to the latest version of your software. You’re not paying for the software to “do nothing”, you’re paying for the cost of Docker having a wider variety of software versions to support.

ratww 6y ago
No, I'm really not. Docker doesn't have to support anything they don't want. They can support only the latest version and just refuse to support obsolete versions. They can even deprecate API endpoints for versions they don't want to use anymore and ask users to upgrade. They could even sell support for those obsolete versions. This is how a large part of the industry operates and a great strategy for making money. Docker Desktop is an app that runs on local computers. Just as everyone doesn't want Google or Apple forcing things on them, I also don't want third-party software developers doing the same and risking breaking my workflow because they didn't give me the opportunity control and be careful about my upgrades. This is entirely possible. I also work on a company that sells Desktop apps, but we sell to non-technical users. All those users understand that upgrading to the latest version is routine when you have issues.
closeparen 6y ago
As far as I’m concerned Docker Desktop, like most desktop software, was finished years ago. No update has ever benefitted me in any way. But many of them have broken things. I don’t need “support” to slowly triage, troubleshoot, and develop a fix when I know I can always fix the problem right now by downgrading. I don’t need “bug fixes” or “stability improvements” when the only threat to stability is the updates. I just need it to stop fucking updating. If I need it to do something new I’ll upgrade. By 99% of the time I need it to keep doing what it did yesterday.

ratww 6y ago

No, I'm really not. Docker doesn't have to support anything they don't want. They can support only the latest version and just refuse to support obsolete versions. They can even deprecate API endpoints for versions they don't want to use anymore and ask users to upgrade. They could even sell support for those obsolete versions. This is how a large part of the industry operates and a great strategy for making money. Docker Desktop is an app that runs on local computers. Just as everyone doesn't want Google or Apple forcing things on them, I also don't want third-party software developers doing the same and risking breaking my workflow because they didn't give me the opportunity control and be careful about my upgrades. This is entirely possible. I also work on a company that sells Desktop apps, but we sell to non-technical users. All those users understand that upgrading to the latest version is routine when you have issues.

closeparen 6y ago

As far as I’m concerned Docker Desktop, like most desktop software, was finished years ago. No update has ever benefitted me in any way. But many of them have broken things. I don’t need “support” to slowly triage, troubleshoot, and develop a fix when I know I can always fix the problem right now by downgrading. I don’t need “bug fixes” or “stability improvements” when the only threat to stability is the updates. I just need it to stop fucking updating. If I need it to do something new I’ll upgrade. By 99% of the time I need it to keep doing what it did yesterday.