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Printer cartridges used to be easier to fill, too. Give them time.

tomxor 6y ago
You might be right, time will tell. Or they might never develove into that position due to slightly better consumer protection laws since the HP thing.
Mordisquitos 6y ago
On the other hand, one could argue that if the dishwasher manufacturer's intention was indeed to prevent user refills, they would have known to already implement their own strict "DRM-style" technological limitations, drawing from the history of printer cartridges. The fact that they haven't may well be a sign of good faith.
adrr 6y ago
My new printer has ink tanks that I can put any type ink into. No cartridges.
- MaxBarraclough 6y ago
  Which printer is that?
  - slacktide 6y ago
    The one Shaq is hawking.
  - adrr 6y ago
    Epson ecotank. Other manufactures have tank inkjets as well to be more eco friendly and economical.
  - bayindirh 6y ago
    HP also has one. It's more expensive than normal ones, so it doesn't smell like razor-cartridge business model. I'd happily buy one of these but, my current one runs like a champ and it's ink-advantage model, so it's really cheap to run.
    - sagarm 6y ago
      Lasers are better if you don't print that often. I got one ten years ago and I'm still on the starter toner!
      - bayindirh 6y ago
        I have both laser and inkjet printers. Inkjet is for color, photos, and its scanning capabilities. Got a laser for printing papers during master and Ph.D. Mine has split drum and toner. Its life is very long, but I need to find a new drum for it soonish, and it's a bit hard to find. Also Samsung's transfer to HP isn't helping. Don't want to throw it away because it's a small business printer and a flawless machine from my point of view.
      - adrr 6y ago
        I have a laser for b/w. It’s a entry level brother printer. The toner cartridges they come with are only partially filled and replacements are expensive. My starting toner cartridge died after a couple reams of paper. Nice thing of about laser is the toner doesn’t dry up like inkjets but they also moved toward razor handle and blade model.
        bayindirh 6y ago
        Some home lasers have this problem unfortunately. I think I learnt my lesson and started to buy home office equipment. They're more serviceable, longer lasting and they're generally faster and higher quality overall. When used in light duty, they run as long as you can find refills for it. I always buy original refills BTW. Yes, they're expensive but, they last for a long time and I sleep better at night.
        Sanzig 6y ago
        I've got one of those entry level Brother laser printers. If you don't mind voiding your warranty, you can buy third party refilled cartridges for less than $20 on Amazon. They work just as well as the OEM ones.
bayindirh 6y ago
A small bit of trivia: In the days of HP Deskjet 500C/510/550C trio, HP sold official black cartridge refill kits. It was a bit clunky, but you inserted your cartridge to a contraption, pulled some levers in order presented on the device and you'd have an officially refilled cartridge. The black cartridges on these printers were transparent, held really liquid ink to the brim and the refill device had aluminum, HP branded ink bottles. Oh, the cartridges had air-pillows inside to maintain a positive pressure at all times.

You might be right, time will tell. Or they might never develove into that position due to slightly better consumer protection laws since the HP thing.

Mordisquitos 6y ago

On the other hand, one could argue that if the dishwasher manufacturer's intention was indeed to prevent user refills, they would have known to already implement their own strict "DRM-style" technological limitations, drawing from the history of printer cartridges. The fact that they haven't may well be a sign of good faith.

adrr 6y ago

My new printer has ink tanks that I can put any type ink into. No cartridges.

MaxBarraclough 6y ago
Which printer is that?
- slacktide 6y ago
  The one Shaq is hawking.
- adrr 6y ago
  Epson ecotank. Other manufactures have tank inkjets as well to be more eco friendly and economical.
- bayindirh 6y ago
  HP also has one. It's more expensive than normal ones, so it doesn't smell like razor-cartridge business model. I'd happily buy one of these but, my current one runs like a champ and it's ink-advantage model, so it's really cheap to run.
  - sagarm 6y ago
    Lasers are better if you don't print that often. I got one ten years ago and I'm still on the starter toner!
    - bayindirh 6y ago
      I have both laser and inkjet printers. Inkjet is for color, photos, and its scanning capabilities. Got a laser for printing papers during master and Ph.D. Mine has split drum and toner. Its life is very long, but I need to find a new drum for it soonish, and it's a bit hard to find. Also Samsung's transfer to HP isn't helping. Don't want to throw it away because it's a small business printer and a flawless machine from my point of view.
    - adrr 6y ago
      I have a laser for b/w. It’s a entry level brother printer. The toner cartridges they come with are only partially filled and replacements are expensive. My starting toner cartridge died after a couple reams of paper. Nice thing of about laser is the toner doesn’t dry up like inkjets but they also moved toward razor handle and blade model.
      - bayindirh 6y ago
        Some home lasers have this problem unfortunately. I think I learnt my lesson and started to buy home office equipment. They're more serviceable, longer lasting and they're generally faster and higher quality overall. When used in light duty, they run as long as you can find refills for it. I always buy original refills BTW. Yes, they're expensive but, they last for a long time and I sleep better at night.
      - Sanzig 6y ago
        I've got one of those entry level Brother laser printers. If you don't mind voiding your warranty, you can buy third party refilled cartridges for less than $20 on Amazon. They work just as well as the OEM ones.

bayindirh 6y ago

A small bit of trivia: In the days of HP Deskjet 500C/510/550C trio, HP sold official black cartridge refill kits. It was a bit clunky, but you inserted your cartridge to a contraption, pulled some levers in order presented on the device and you'd have an officially refilled cartridge. The black cartridges on these printers were transparent, held really liquid ink to the brim and the refill device had aluminum, HP branded ink bottles. Oh, the cartridges had air-pillows inside to maintain a positive pressure at all times.