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Is this a London thing? I've rented in the UK for decades and I've never had a dishwasher or space for one. Friends haven't bothered with dishwashers until th

Is this a London thing? I've rented in the UK for decades and I've never had a dishwasher or space for one. Friends haven't bothered with dishwashers until they had kids, and then they needed to create a space and add some plumbing. Dishwashers in the UK seem like the opposite of ubiquitous. Maybe I live in a strange bubble.

OJFord 5y ago
These counter-top ones? Not that I'm aware of. I have a normal (though half-width, but that just makes sense for a 1 bed place really) one in London. Maybe older builds that haven't been updated wouldn't have any space for one as you say, without re-jigging cupboards, so maybe people do. But then you're losing work surface for it..
- dopidopHN 5y ago
  My view on the utility of those devices : I lived in Paris for a while. Large appartement have dishwasher, but in single units, it’s uncommon. I remember looking for solution like that for a renter in a small place without proper plumbing to accommodate a dishwasher. I also see a market for the so called tiny house folks or full time RVer. I don’t find that particular product appealing too much, but I would like to see more like that. And I know folks around me that would buy one if it’s was more open and fixable.
gambiting 5y ago
I've rented.....8 houses so far, all in North East(Newcastle) and every single one of them had a dishwasher. I suppose maybe part of it is that I simply wouldn't rent a place without a dishwasher ;-)
- detaro 5y ago
  presumably "houses" is the key word here?
  - sirsinsalot 5y ago
    I've rented flats outside london for years, always come with a dishwasher. I'm on a high salary though, so it may skew my world view of what is "standard"
  - gambiting 5y ago
    Fair, but in my experience with the UK something like a 2 bed house is really just an apartment cosplaying as a house.
    - _carbyau_ 5y ago
      Well in a lot of places, the fact it is a self standing property means the owner can do whatever they want with it without having to consult a "building committee". Like rearranging plumbing/electrical however you want. Whether landlords use this advantage for tenants quality of life is a whole other story.
secondcoming 5y ago
Every place I've rented in London had a dishwasher, and we're talking 6 places over 15 years
zimpenfish 5y ago
Anecdata: I've rented 2 flats in London over the last 30 years (and been a frequent visitor to 4 more); none had a dishwasher. Rented one house in Newcastle; also no dishwasher.

OJFord 5y ago

These counter-top ones? Not that I'm aware of. I have a normal (though half-width, but that just makes sense for a 1 bed place really) one in London. Maybe older builds that haven't been updated wouldn't have any space for one as you say, without re-jigging cupboards, so maybe people do. But then you're losing work surface for it..

dopidopHN 5y ago
My view on the utility of those devices : I lived in Paris for a while. Large appartement have dishwasher, but in single units, it’s uncommon. I remember looking for solution like that for a renter in a small place without proper plumbing to accommodate a dishwasher. I also see a market for the so called tiny house folks or full time RVer. I don’t find that particular product appealing too much, but I would like to see more like that. And I know folks around me that would buy one if it’s was more open and fixable.

gambiting 5y ago

I've rented.....8 houses so far, all in North East(Newcastle) and every single one of them had a dishwasher. I suppose maybe part of it is that I simply wouldn't rent a place without a dishwasher ;-)

detaro 5y ago
presumably "houses" is the key word here?
- sirsinsalot 5y ago
  I've rented flats outside london for years, always come with a dishwasher. I'm on a high salary though, so it may skew my world view of what is "standard"
- gambiting 5y ago
  Fair, but in my experience with the UK something like a 2 bed house is really just an apartment cosplaying as a house.
  - _carbyau_ 5y ago
    Well in a lot of places, the fact it is a self standing property means the owner can do whatever they want with it without having to consult a "building committee". Like rearranging plumbing/electrical however you want. Whether landlords use this advantage for tenants quality of life is a whole other story.

secondcoming 5y ago

Every place I've rented in London had a dishwasher, and we're talking 6 places over 15 years

zimpenfish 5y ago

Anecdata: I've rented 2 flats in London over the last 30 years (and been a frequent visitor to 4 more); none had a dishwasher. Rented one house in Newcastle; also no dishwasher.