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I noped out when it said internet connected dishwasher.

mikro2nd 6y ago
Original hacker did say that he's never allowed the thing an actual internet connection, though, and it's still working just fine. So clearly the internet connectivity is not a hard requirement. I wonder what it does send back to the manufacturer, though... Anybody who owns one up for dumping the contents of their dishwasher's conversation with Mom?
- bonoboTP 6y ago
  OP still rewarded the company. Through work I'm somewhat connected to a big appliance maker and whenever they do the big presentations on their Vision For The Future it's all IoT. That every little shit in your home from your blender to your dishwasher to your drill will be internet connected and have software updates and upgrades and tracked servicing and tamper proofing and usage statistics and paid feature unlocking and upselling and better market segmentation etc. They'll extort our very last penny we can shed and we will be happy about it and march into this future willingly.
qwertox 6y ago
I have mine connected to a wifi power meter and the data is logged in InfluxDB and monitored by Grafana, so I get an email and XMPP notification when the dishes are done. Then the same for the washing machine, and there it is super useful since the machine isn't inside the apartment, but in the washroom, and it is a real problem if I forget the clothes. But doing this with the dishwasher is not useful.
- bonoboTP 6y ago
  The last thing I need in my life is yet another source for notifications. But I guess we are all different.
  - qwertox 6y ago
    Honestly it's a blessing if your washing machine let's you know that the clothes are ready to be taken out. Since I started with this around 4 years ago, I've never forgotten the clothes in it. Also, it's 1-3 notifications a week. Then again, I also get notifications multiple times a day when the backups of the servers finished successfully or failed, so it appears that I'm ok with receiving notifications (from machines). Or when devices have connected to the wifi.
- exhilaration 6y ago
  Wait, you plugged a wifi power meter in your apartment building's communal washroom? Don't you get pinged everytime anyone finishes a load of laundry? Also: brilliant hack!
  - qwertox 6y ago
    Each apartment has his own washing machine in the communal washroom, so I have the cable plugged into the power meter and every time I need to wash I plug the power meter into the wall socket. I'm considering replacing it with an ESP32 and wrap a wire around the cable which should then detect if current is flowing, but I lack a bit of motivation since the current setup is working.
kumarvvr 6y ago
I think, for this particular machine, the internet connection is for sending alerts for when new pods are required. However, I still remember how scarily fast did TV manufacturers go from "the internet is for a richer experience" to "all your data are belong to us". And the worst part is no one, not even regulators flinched a muscle while this data grabbed happened before everyone's eyes.
- bonoboTP 6y ago
  Don't forget the damn ads that are all over your definitely-not-free "smart" TV.

Original hacker did say that he's never allowed the thing an actual internet connection, though, and it's still working just fine. So clearly the internet connectivity is not a hard requirement. I wonder what it does send back to the manufacturer, though... Anybody who owns one up for dumping the contents of their dishwasher's conversation with Mom?

bonoboTP 6y ago
OP still rewarded the company. Through work I'm somewhat connected to a big appliance maker and whenever they do the big presentations on their Vision For The Future it's all IoT. That every little shit in your home from your blender to your dishwasher to your drill will be internet connected and have software updates and upgrades and tracked servicing and tamper proofing and usage statistics and paid feature unlocking and upselling and better market segmentation etc. They'll extort our very last penny we can shed and we will be happy about it and march into this future willingly.

qwertox 6y ago

I have mine connected to a wifi power meter and the data is logged in InfluxDB and monitored by Grafana, so I get an email and XMPP notification when the dishes are done. Then the same for the washing machine, and there it is super useful since the machine isn't inside the apartment, but in the washroom, and it is a real problem if I forget the clothes. But doing this with the dishwasher is not useful.

bonoboTP 6y ago
The last thing I need in my life is yet another source for notifications. But I guess we are all different.
- qwertox 6y ago
  Honestly it's a blessing if your washing machine let's you know that the clothes are ready to be taken out. Since I started with this around 4 years ago, I've never forgotten the clothes in it. Also, it's 1-3 notifications a week. Then again, I also get notifications multiple times a day when the backups of the servers finished successfully or failed, so it appears that I'm ok with receiving notifications (from machines). Or when devices have connected to the wifi.
exhilaration 6y ago
Wait, you plugged a wifi power meter in your apartment building's communal washroom? Don't you get pinged everytime anyone finishes a load of laundry? Also: brilliant hack!
- qwertox 6y ago
  Each apartment has his own washing machine in the communal washroom, so I have the cable plugged into the power meter and every time I need to wash I plug the power meter into the wall socket. I'm considering replacing it with an ESP32 and wrap a wire around the cable which should then detect if current is flowing, but I lack a bit of motivation since the current setup is working.

kumarvvr 6y ago

I think, for this particular machine, the internet connection is for sending alerts for when new pods are required. However, I still remember how scarily fast did TV manufacturers go from "the internet is for a richer experience" to "all your data are belong to us". And the worst part is no one, not even regulators flinched a muscle while this data grabbed happened before everyone's eyes.

bonoboTP 6y ago
Don't forget the damn ads that are all over your definitely-not-free "smart" TV.