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Please never do that. PWA are 99.999% spam. See Firefox’s research on the topic. I hate every time I visit a new site and there’s some dumb pop up on my browser

Please never do that. PWA are 99.999% spam. See Firefox’s research on the topic. I hate every time I visit a new site and there’s some dumb pop up on my browser asking me to enable push notifications. Sometimes I miss click and end up having to go through the annoying process of removing them. Fortunately, Apple cares about its users and won’t enable a feature that is only abused for spam.

fragile_frogs 5y ago
Weird, I am using Chrome on Android and 99.999% of the time I don't see a popup asking me to enable push notifications. What websites are you visiting?
- ex3ndr 5y ago
  Chrome is a different. Chrome shows you some notifications only after you visited it couple of times or was on site couple of minutes.
hotz 5y ago
I like to think of it as bad implementations and people not considering the user experience. Sometimes you just have project managers or clients who want it like that regardless of how awful it is. In that scenario I think it's the developer's responsibility to give push back. It's why I don't get asked about implementing pop-ups on homepages.
afavour 5y ago
PWAs are just push notifications, it’s an entire app system. Home Screen, offline functionality, intents to share with other apps/the web, seamless updates, etc etc etc. Not to mention that the push permission problem is easily solved, indeed is _already_ solved by Google in Chrome. A lot of it is actually an improvement on APIs like AppCache that Apple originally implemented for iOS web apps! “a feature that is only abused for spam” is a wild misreading of PWAs. It’s true that they aren’t used too widely today but that’s _because_ Apple refuses to support it. I think it was a huge strategic misfire to create this PWA “brand” as it allows everyone to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The vast majority of the APIs involved make sense.
- afavour 5y ago
  Above should start “PWAs aren’t”, d’oh…
rchaud 5y ago
> I hate every time I visit a new site and there’s some dumb pop up on my browser asking me to enable push notifications. So just don't click 'Allow'. Why should the manufacturer have to intervene here?
- olliej 5y ago
  ... because I don't want the obnoxious "let me spam you" dialog to occur at all. A feature that's primary use case is spam, is a user hostile feature that has no business being in a browser.
hombre_fatal 5y ago
That’s a UX issue with your preferred browser.

fragile_frogs 5y ago

Weird, I am using Chrome on Android and 99.999% of the time I don't see a popup asking me to enable push notifications. What websites are you visiting?

ex3ndr 5y ago
Chrome is a different. Chrome shows you some notifications only after you visited it couple of times or was on site couple of minutes.

hotz 5y ago

I like to think of it as bad implementations and people not considering the user experience. Sometimes you just have project managers or clients who want it like that regardless of how awful it is. In that scenario I think it's the developer's responsibility to give push back. It's why I don't get asked about implementing pop-ups on homepages.

afavour 5y ago

PWAs are just push notifications, it’s an entire app system. Home Screen, offline functionality, intents to share with other apps/the web, seamless updates, etc etc etc. Not to mention that the push permission problem is easily solved, indeed is _already_ solved by Google in Chrome. A lot of it is actually an improvement on APIs like AppCache that Apple originally implemented for iOS web apps! “a feature that is only abused for spam” is a wild misreading of PWAs. It’s true that they aren’t used too widely today but that’s _because_ Apple refuses to support it. I think it was a huge strategic misfire to create this PWA “brand” as it allows everyone to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The vast majority of the APIs involved make sense.

afavour 5y ago
Above should start “PWAs aren’t”, d’oh…

rchaud 5y ago

> I hate every time I visit a new site and there’s some dumb pop up on my browser asking me to enable push notifications. So just don't click 'Allow'. Why should the manufacturer have to intervene here?

olliej 5y ago
... because I don't want the obnoxious "let me spam you" dialog to occur at all. A feature that's primary use case is spam, is a user hostile feature that has no business being in a browser.

hombre_fatal 5y ago

That’s a UX issue with your preferred browser.