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> But let's start by making a short list of main reasons of failure per effort, starting with the companies involved: > ... > Nokia (Maemo/Meego): Change in c

> But let's start by making a short list of main reasons of failure per effort, starting with the companies involved: > ... > Nokia (Maemo/Meego): Change in corporate strategy (new CEO), > ... Nokia Linux based phones didn't fail simply because of a new CEO, but because of a partnership with Microsoft that brought a CEO and a deal with Windows Mobile on Nokia phones in exchange for phasing out of Linux and Symbian devices. If it wasn't for Microsoft, Linux on Nokia phones would have succeeded. Remember this every time you work with WSL thinking that Microsoft loves Linux and the Open Source model; they don't. They simply aim at controlling it, this time also from the inside (see Linux Foundation Platinum membership).

dagw 6y ago
If it wasn't for Microsoft, Linux on Nokia phones would have succeeded. That seems wildly optimistic. I owned an N900 and used an N9 for a while, and while I loved them for all their nerdy glory, they where not ready for prime time. Why do you think Nokia would have done better with Meego than they did with WP?
- squarefoot 6y ago
  I can't be 100% sure, of course, however both Purism and Pine64 phones are slowly but steadily getting better every month. I can only imagine that Nokia could have allocated a lot more resources on making their Linux phone.
  - dagw 6y ago
    Nokia + Microsoft poured more resources into Windows Phone than Nokia would ever have poured into Meego. And they failed, despite both WP 8 and 10 both offering a really great mobile OS experience.
    - tovej 6y ago
      The windows phone experience was terrible, don't kid yourself.
      - dagw 6y ago
        I had a Nokia Windows Phone. The core user experience of WP10 is the best I've ever experienced on any phone. What mainly let it down was first and foremost the lack of quality third party apps (and as time went on lack of support of the first party apps).
      - ThrowawayR2 6y ago
        I'd pay good money for a phone with an updated version of Windows Phone.

dagw 6y ago

If it wasn't for Microsoft, Linux on Nokia phones would have succeeded. That seems wildly optimistic. I owned an N900 and used an N9 for a while, and while I loved them for all their nerdy glory, they where not ready for prime time. Why do you think Nokia would have done better with Meego than they did with WP?

squarefoot 6y ago
I can't be 100% sure, of course, however both Purism and Pine64 phones are slowly but steadily getting better every month. I can only imagine that Nokia could have allocated a lot more resources on making their Linux phone.
- dagw 6y ago
  Nokia + Microsoft poured more resources into Windows Phone than Nokia would ever have poured into Meego. And they failed, despite both WP 8 and 10 both offering a really great mobile OS experience.
  - tovej 6y ago
    The windows phone experience was terrible, don't kid yourself.
    - dagw 6y ago
      I had a Nokia Windows Phone. The core user experience of WP10 is the best I've ever experienced on any phone. What mainly let it down was first and foremost the lack of quality third party apps (and as time went on lack of support of the first party apps).
    - ThrowawayR2 6y ago
      I'd pay good money for a phone with an updated version of Windows Phone.