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You fundamentally do not understand the definition of totalitarianism which is why, you, simply lofting that word at everyone in every direction to blanket disp

by anm89 6y ago

You fundamentally do not understand the definition of totalitarianism which is why, you, simply lofting that word at everyone in every direction to blanket disparage things you don't like results in 90% of your comment history being greyed out. I know I'm wasting my time here but here is the first three definitions of totalitarianism I was able to find : (emphasis mine) > Britannica: Totalitarianism: *form of government* that theoretically permits no individual freedom and that seeks to subordinate all aspects of individual life to the authority of the state. > Google : relating to a *system of government* that is centralized and dictatorial and requires complete subservience to the state. > Dictionary.com : of or relating to a *centralized government* that does not tolerate parties of differing opinion and that exercises dictatorial control over many aspects of life. A business is not a government and you are using the term in a meaningless context so you are going to have to forgive everyone else for pointing out that what you are saying makes absolutely zero sense.

djrobstep 6y ago
> A business is not a government Yes it is, hence the existence of concepts like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_governance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_governance and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workplace_democracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workplace_democracy Employers have a great deal of authority of their employee's lives - to that extent they govern their employees. This is all straightforward, conventional usage of these words and terms. Government also makes the rules about how businesses operate (property law, contract law, and so forth), and give businesses the right to enforce them - in this way, businesses are an extension of government in the control they have over our lives. All you're doing is question-begging the exact premise I'm critiquing in the first place: That the workplace is in a magic separate dimension where principles usually agreed to be good (democracy, equality) are no longer desirable or even applicable.
- anm89 6y ago
  That is honestly probably the single dumbest things I've ever seen written on hacker news. Congrats.
  - djrobstep 6y ago
    Instead of insults, perhaps you could explain what you think is wrong with it or what you disagree with. I'm not sure why this has made you angry - perhaps you've become irrationally attached to certain ideological beliefs, and my pointing them out has triggered you.
    - anm89 6y ago
      >A business is not a government >Yes it is Some things reach a point of idiocy where no one is going to be convinced and you just need to call things what they are. And that is fucking moronic. So let's just stick with that.
      - djrobstep 6y ago
        Imagine being so convinced you're correct that you call others idiots and morons, when a cursory read of the relevant wikipedia article would show that you're obviously wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government Emphasis mine: > A government is the system or group of people governing an organized community, *generally* a state. > While *all types of organizations have governance*, the term government is *often* used more specifically, to refer to the approximately 200 independent national governments and subsidiary organizations. So you are simply ignorant of the broader meaning of the term. I look forward to your apology. But do please try to interact with more humility and politeness in future, and be familiar with the very basics of a topic before debating it.

by anm89 6y ago

djrobstep 6y ago

> A business is not a government Yes it is, hence the existence of concepts like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_governance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_governance and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workplace_democracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workplace_democracy Employers have a great deal of authority of their employee's lives - to that extent they govern their employees. This is all straightforward, conventional usage of these words and terms. Government also makes the rules about how businesses operate (property law, contract law, and so forth), and give businesses the right to enforce them - in this way, businesses are an extension of government in the control they have over our lives. All you're doing is question-begging the exact premise I'm critiquing in the first place: That the workplace is in a magic separate dimension where principles usually agreed to be good (democracy, equality) are no longer desirable or even applicable.

anm89 6y ago
That is honestly probably the single dumbest things I've ever seen written on hacker news. Congrats.
- djrobstep 6y ago
  Instead of insults, perhaps you could explain what you think is wrong with it or what you disagree with. I'm not sure why this has made you angry - perhaps you've become irrationally attached to certain ideological beliefs, and my pointing them out has triggered you.
  - anm89 6y ago
    >A business is not a government >Yes it is Some things reach a point of idiocy where no one is going to be convinced and you just need to call things what they are. And that is fucking moronic. So let's just stick with that.
    - djrobstep 6y ago
      Imagine being so convinced you're correct that you call others idiots and morons, when a cursory read of the relevant wikipedia article would show that you're obviously wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government Emphasis mine: > A government is the system or group of people governing an organized community, *generally* a state. > While *all types of organizations have governance*, the term government is *often* used more specifically, to refer to the approximately 200 independent national governments and subsidiary organizations. So you are simply ignorant of the broader meaning of the term. I look forward to your apology. But do please try to interact with more humility and politeness in future, and be familiar with the very basics of a topic before debating it.