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You are very wrong on all of this. mRNA doesn't, and can't possibly, "change your DNA". Vaccinated people are much less likely to get infected and much less l

You are very wrong on all of this. mRNA doesn't, and can't possibly, "change your DNA". Vaccinated people are much less likely to get infected and much less likely to spread infection.

stevenicr 5y ago
Digging for more truth then. further down in the same results. cdc April 2 21 doc ( https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-br... ) includes this: " A growing body of evidence suggests that fully vaccinated people are less likely to have asymptomatic infection and potentially less likely to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others. However, further investigation is ongoing. " 8th result from healthline ( https://www.healthline.com/health-news/if-youre-vaccinated-can-you-transmit-covid-19-what-we-know#Some-vaccines-block-most-infections https://www.healthline.com/health-news/if-youre-vaccinated-c... )includes this: " While all the approved vaccines offer strong protection against severe COVID-19 and hospitalization, the Oxford-AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines block fewer infections than do the mRNA vaccines. None of the vaccines are 100 percent effective at preventing infections. So even if people don’t get very sick with COVID-19, they may still contract an infection and can potentially transmit the virus to others. " So it seems that indeed people that have been fully vaccinated with either the mrna (seems like after 2 doses up to 90% protection?) and the lesser ones to a lesser extent.. both types of "vaccines" do not 100% full stop people from getting it an transmitting it. This is very different from vaccines as I had previously known like polio or shingles vaccines which 100% prevent them and prevent you from spreading them right? So I guess my point to the OP would be that sure it's fine to not want to go to an office where everyone has not been vaccinated, but this is not like the polio vaccine - depending on the vaccine given there is a 10% or higher chance that those people can still get it and still transmit it right? It's fine choice to want people to get vaccinated - I just think some people are using the term to think like eradication.. full protection - like polio vaccines.. but this is not that (right?). Again, happy to be wrong on all of this. But also want other people to not be confused by terms that at this point I feel are being misused, and sure, perhaps for the greater good - but nonetheless can be abused to create a false, and for some people deadly, sense of security.
- selectodude 5y ago
  Two doses of the polio vaccine are 90+ percent effective. Two doses of the Moderna/Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine are 95+ percent effective against any illness at all and 100 percent effective against severe illness. If the polio vaccine is your goal, it's been surpassed. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-dur...
  - stevenicr 5y ago
    thanks for the clarification - I had not known polio was only at 90% - since it has been all but eradicated (?) I had assumed it was 100. I worry many others assume similar - as going back to an office with all at 80-90% I would do, but I may skip the shared bathrooms if I was really worried about it.
    - extra88 5y ago
      Polio isn’t airborne and is much less transmissible so the vaccine doesn’t need to be as effective to stop the spread. Vaccination programs were also very successful.
8note 5y ago
Are there no proteins that can change DNA?

You are very wrong on all of this. mRNA doesn't, and can't possibly, "change your DNA". Vaccinated people are much less likely to get infected and much less likely to spread infection.

stevenicr 5y ago

Digging for more truth then. further down in the same results. cdc April 2 21 doc ( https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-br... ) includes this: " A growing body of evidence suggests that fully vaccinated people are less likely to have asymptomatic infection and potentially less likely to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others. However, further investigation is ongoing. " 8th result from healthline ( https://www.healthline.com/health-news/if-youre-vaccinated-can-you-transmit-covid-19-what-we-know#Some-vaccines-block-most-infections https://www.healthline.com/health-news/if-youre-vaccinated-c... )includes this: " While all the approved vaccines offer strong protection against severe COVID-19 and hospitalization, the Oxford-AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines block fewer infections than do the mRNA vaccines. None of the vaccines are 100 percent effective at preventing infections. So even if people don’t get very sick with COVID-19, they may still contract an infection and can potentially transmit the virus to others. " So it seems that indeed people that have been fully vaccinated with either the mrna (seems like after 2 doses up to 90% protection?) and the lesser ones to a lesser extent.. both types of "vaccines" do not 100% full stop people from getting it an transmitting it. This is very different from vaccines as I had previously known like polio or shingles vaccines which 100% prevent them and prevent you from spreading them right? So I guess my point to the OP would be that sure it's fine to not want to go to an office where everyone has not been vaccinated, but this is not like the polio vaccine - depending on the vaccine given there is a 10% or higher chance that those people can still get it and still transmit it right? It's fine choice to want people to get vaccinated - I just think some people are using the term to think like eradication.. full protection - like polio vaccines.. but this is not that (right?). Again, happy to be wrong on all of this. But also want other people to not be confused by terms that at this point I feel are being misused, and sure, perhaps for the greater good - but nonetheless can be abused to create a false, and for some people deadly, sense of security.

selectodude 5y ago
Two doses of the polio vaccine are 90+ percent effective. Two doses of the Moderna/Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine are 95+ percent effective against any illness at all and 100 percent effective against severe illness. If the polio vaccine is your goal, it's been surpassed. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-dur...
- stevenicr 5y ago
  thanks for the clarification - I had not known polio was only at 90% - since it has been all but eradicated (?) I had assumed it was 100. I worry many others assume similar - as going back to an office with all at 80-90% I would do, but I may skip the shared bathrooms if I was really worried about it.
  - extra88 5y ago
    Polio isn’t airborne and is much less transmissible so the vaccine doesn’t need to be as effective to stop the spread. Vaccination programs were also very successful.

8note 5y ago

Are there no proteins that can change DNA?