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> Society disagrees with you, and they get to choose what words mean. Lol. Society disagrees with you. Vast majority of people knows racism mean intentional.

> Society disagrees with you, and they get to choose what words mean. Lol. Society disagrees with you. Vast majority of people knows racism mean intentional. "Systemic racism" is just a political jargon throw around by one side of politics. > People say this, but I have noticed a strong correlation between people understanding what the words "systemic racism" means and understanding a lot about how these systems operate. If you really understand how the systems operate, you would have known the biggest issue with Black Americans is more than 70% single parenthood of Black kids. "In the Harlem neighborhood of New York City in 1925, 85 percent of kin-related black households had two parents.[15] When Moynihan warned in his 1965 report on the coming destruction of the black family, however, the out-of-wedlock birthrate had increased to 25% among the black population.[12] This figure continued to rise over time and in 1991, 68% of black children were born outside of marriage.[16] U.S. Census data from 2010 reveal that more African-American families consisted of single mothers than married households with both parents.[17] In 2011, it was reported that 72% of black babies were born to unmarried mothers.[11] As of 2015, at 77.3 percent, black Americans have the highest rate of non-marital births among native Americans.[18]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_family_structure#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_family_struct... Unfortunately, people like to throw "systemic racism" around are the same people try their best to avoid addressing the real issue here.

danShumway 5y ago
> are the same people try their best to avoid addressing the real issue Okay, I'll bite. What are you personally doing to address the issues leading to single parenthoods in Black communities, since the rest of us are just avoiding the issue? Are you lobbying to support better sex education? Better healthcare coverage? More social safety nets for single-parent children who need additional help? More school resources for schools in those areas that have an outsized number of students struggling with family issues at home? You support those policies, right? And do you think that monetary issues might have anything to do with family stability? Might money coincidentally be the single leading cause of divorce in America today? Out of curiosity, might financial stability be one of the single most significant leading indicators of family stability?
- temp8964 5y ago
  Before make any policy suggestions, first honestly admit its existence and admit it has nothing to do with slavery. And then you might find what caused it and how to fix it.
  - danShumway 5y ago
    Admit that single parent families often struggle? Yes, admitted. Single parent families often struggle and they need more support. That it has nothing to do with slavery? You haven't been paying attention. Black communities do not magically have higher single-parent rates because God ordained it. They have higher rates because of literally everything I've been talking about in the past 3 comments. > and how to fix it. And this is exactly what I mean. You can look at the comments in this thread, and one group of people are proposing policy solutions, and the other group is complaining that words make them feel bad. There's some weird tiptoeing around the issue here, which I sort of suspect is because you're hesitant to publicly say what you believe the solution really is. So I'll ask it directly: how do you think we should help single-parent kids who need additional support?
    - temp8964 5y ago
      Now you are just bluntly making stuff up. How did something exploded in 1950-60s was a result of slavery? So anything happened to African Americans is a result of slavery? Just throwing the word systematic racism is sufficient for you. And how the heck of helping single-parent kids solve this problem? What kind of dishonest question is that. Yeah, let government be the daddy.
      - danShumway 5y ago
        > Just throwing the word systematic racism is sufficient for you. No, but understanding the history of this country in the 1950-60s, including purposefully racist systems like redlining that were still rampant -- that is sufficient. > And how the heck of helping single-parent kids solve this problem? What? You said that single-parents families were the problem: > the biggest issue with Black Americans is more than 70% single parenthood of Black kids. But whatever. You tell me what you think the problem is and what you think the solution is. Stop dancing around the question, do you have any plans or actions you're taking right now to make the situation better, at all? Because you've spent three comments now complaining that everyone except you is avoiding the real issue, and you seem very hesitant to state exactly what you think the real issue is and what you think we should be doing to "fix" it. And to be completely honest, I suspect the reason is that you don't actually believe the current outcomes are a problem, and you don't actually think that they warrant fixing. I run into a lot of people who tell me that focusing on racism and systems is a distraction that's preventing the Black community from getting help, but when I dig into their beliefs, what ends up surfacing in the majority of cases is that they don't believe the Black community should have help. So you don't want the government to help with setting up community programs? You don't want more money for schools in that area? Okay fine, are you donating money to charities in inter-city areas? Are you supporting or investing in local businesses in those areas? You tell me what you're doing to help.

danShumway 5y ago

> are the same people try their best to avoid addressing the real issue Okay, I'll bite. What are you personally doing to address the issues leading to single parenthoods in Black communities, since the rest of us are just avoiding the issue? Are you lobbying to support better sex education? Better healthcare coverage? More social safety nets for single-parent children who need additional help? More school resources for schools in those areas that have an outsized number of students struggling with family issues at home? You support those policies, right? And do you think that monetary issues might have anything to do with family stability? Might money coincidentally be the single leading cause of divorce in America today? Out of curiosity, might financial stability be one of the single most significant leading indicators of family stability?

temp8964 5y ago
Before make any policy suggestions, first honestly admit its existence and admit it has nothing to do with slavery. And then you might find what caused it and how to fix it.
- danShumway 5y ago
  Admit that single parent families often struggle? Yes, admitted. Single parent families often struggle and they need more support. That it has nothing to do with slavery? You haven't been paying attention. Black communities do not magically have higher single-parent rates because God ordained it. They have higher rates because of literally everything I've been talking about in the past 3 comments. > and how to fix it. And this is exactly what I mean. You can look at the comments in this thread, and one group of people are proposing policy solutions, and the other group is complaining that words make them feel bad. There's some weird tiptoeing around the issue here, which I sort of suspect is because you're hesitant to publicly say what you believe the solution really is. So I'll ask it directly: how do you think we should help single-parent kids who need additional support?
  - temp8964 5y ago
    Now you are just bluntly making stuff up. How did something exploded in 1950-60s was a result of slavery? So anything happened to African Americans is a result of slavery? Just throwing the word systematic racism is sufficient for you. And how the heck of helping single-parent kids solve this problem? What kind of dishonest question is that. Yeah, let government be the daddy.
    - danShumway 5y ago
      > Just throwing the word systematic racism is sufficient for you. No, but understanding the history of this country in the 1950-60s, including purposefully racist systems like redlining that were still rampant -- that is sufficient. > And how the heck of helping single-parent kids solve this problem? What? You said that single-parents families were the problem: > the biggest issue with Black Americans is more than 70% single parenthood of Black kids. But whatever. You tell me what you think the problem is and what you think the solution is. Stop dancing around the question, do you have any plans or actions you're taking right now to make the situation better, at all? Because you've spent three comments now complaining that everyone except you is avoiding the real issue, and you seem very hesitant to state exactly what you think the real issue is and what you think we should be doing to "fix" it. And to be completely honest, I suspect the reason is that you don't actually believe the current outcomes are a problem, and you don't actually think that they warrant fixing. I run into a lot of people who tell me that focusing on racism and systems is a distraction that's preventing the Black community from getting help, but when I dig into their beliefs, what ends up surfacing in the majority of cases is that they don't believe the Black community should have help. So you don't want the government to help with setting up community programs? You don't want more money for schools in that area? Okay fine, are you donating money to charities in inter-city areas? Are you supporting or investing in local businesses in those areas? You tell me what you're doing to help.