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>Actually that's exactly the problem of systemic racism. Racism is at the level of the system and not the individual (though there are still individual racists

>Actually that's exactly the problem of systemic racism. Racism is at the level of the system and not the individual (though there are still individual racists out there for sure). This is a neat explanatory theory but it is only one potential explanation and the reason that the modern movements that are predicated upon it are so dangerous is that it is treated as though it is the only explanation. >It turns out that one of the likely reason for their disproportionate encounters with Police is their disproportionate socio-economic situation There is absolutely nothing outside of correlation to indicate that this is a "likely" reason. The influence of a totally broken culture is drastically understated in socially acceptable discourse. This disproportionate rate of police encounters is unique to blacks and not nearly as prevalent among virtually any other low income socioeconomic group. It's trivial to blame injustices of the past (which plenty of other groups have experienced to various degrees) but even discussing the necessary, drastic change in culture required to solve this problem is taboo. And, ironically, such a position is incompatible with the modern progressive framework, within which such a solution would be seen as whitewashing or gentrification. And rightly so, ghetto black culture is inseparable from glorification of crime and violence. So instead we blame the issue entirely on "systemic racism", the only proof of which is disparate outcome, and the solution will invariably lead the rest of society to suffer the effects of rampant criminality before leaders from black communities will, as has happened repeatedly in the past, later switch to complaining that black communities are underserved by police services, starting the cycle anew. Biden's now unpopular crime bill, along with disproportionate penalization of crack, had strong support from black leaders and black politicians, but today's ideologues class them with the same boogyman of so called systemic racism.

didibus 5y ago
> The influence of a totally broken culture is drastically understated in socially acceptable discourse What do you think the "socio" in "socio-economic" refers too? Obviously culture plays into it, the racist treatment of blacks over history didn't just affect financial capital and heritage, it had direct effects on social aspects, restricted access to education, broken family dynamics, cycle of abuse, religious indoctrination, ancestral cultural erasure, and probably contributed directly to a glorification of crime as a means to upward movement, since nothing else seemed to work or be offered to them. All these in turn affects economic outcomes as well, but also economic outcomes have affected those social aspects. Your culture is a result of your environment, and if you take someone and force them into an environment of abuse and discrimination like was the case of afro-americans, whose culture is it really? In my mind, afro-american culture is American culture, this is all our culture. Our culture has put a race at an absolute disadvantage for generations, resulting in a lack of economic and social prosperity for that race today. You can't then go and say, that's their fault, their culture, not mine, when your culture had a direct impact on theirs. So now it's time to say, let's grow our culture to one of healing, inclusion, and reconciliation together. And here's where it matters, the next time someone is caught with possession or selling of drugs, will you choose to incarcerate them for years? Or will you decide to reinvest in their education, rehabilitation and support them for whatever led them there. The next time a budget is voted on, will you vote to build more prisons, or to invest the money in services and safety in communities of color. Will you choose to more heavily invest in education, employment, housing, and health services in the country, or in police funds? And here's where it matters even more, the next time you encounter a black person, will you treat them with an underlying bias that they are probably more violent and crime driven just because of your association of their skin color you've made with your belief in their culture leading to crime? Will you have your guards up, and will you likely favor another race over them due to this?

didibus 5y ago

> The influence of a totally broken culture is drastically understated in socially acceptable discourse What do you think the "socio" in "socio-economic" refers too? Obviously culture plays into it, the racist treatment of blacks over history didn't just affect financial capital and heritage, it had direct effects on social aspects, restricted access to education, broken family dynamics, cycle of abuse, religious indoctrination, ancestral cultural erasure, and probably contributed directly to a glorification of crime as a means to upward movement, since nothing else seemed to work or be offered to them. All these in turn affects economic outcomes as well, but also economic outcomes have affected those social aspects. Your culture is a result of your environment, and if you take someone and force them into an environment of abuse and discrimination like was the case of afro-americans, whose culture is it really? In my mind, afro-american culture is American culture, this is all our culture. Our culture has put a race at an absolute disadvantage for generations, resulting in a lack of economic and social prosperity for that race today. You can't then go and say, that's their fault, their culture, not mine, when your culture had a direct impact on theirs. So now it's time to say, let's grow our culture to one of healing, inclusion, and reconciliation together. And here's where it matters, the next time someone is caught with possession or selling of drugs, will you choose to incarcerate them for years? Or will you decide to reinvest in their education, rehabilitation and support them for whatever led them there. The next time a budget is voted on, will you vote to build more prisons, or to invest the money in services and safety in communities of color. Will you choose to more heavily invest in education, employment, housing, and health services in the country, or in police funds? And here's where it matters even more, the next time you encounter a black person, will you treat them with an underlying bias that they are probably more violent and crime driven just because of your association of their skin color you've made with your belief in their culture leading to crime? Will you have your guards up, and will you likely favor another race over them due to this?