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The guy has a strong sense of ethics. I continue to be impressed.

dragonwriter 6y ago
> The guy has a strong sense of ethics. I continue to be impressed. That seems to be the case in general, but I have to say in this case it doesn’t really require that to decide to take the opportunity to slam dunk on someone when you discover you’ve been scammed into agreeing to be a speaker for their scam. A fairly normal degree of personal desire for retaliation would suffice.
- nobodyandproud 6y ago
  That’s fair, but normally people either bow out at the last second; or alert the authorities (not sure if it applies here). Maybe I’m more impressed by his hands-on approach to calling someone out. Either way, color me impressed.
- IG_Semmelweiss 6y ago
  Does it? Seems like hollywood has for ages turned a blind eye to a lot of these issues. I think it takes more than a fairly average predisposition to honesty, to go out out there, and yell fraud when you see fraud. Take this event as an example. If it was so easy to call people out, then you would hear it far more often. Here is a single case, and made it to the top of HN.
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > Seems like hollywood has for ages turned a blind eye to a lot of these issues. I think the people recruiting Hollywood figures into these tr things are probably just better at identifying people that don’t really care if its the thing that it says on the tin as long as they get a paycheck; which is why they tend to target past-their-prime figures with money (at least relative to lifestyle) issues.
lern_too_spel 6y ago
Has Snowden ever issued a correction for what he claimed PRISM was? Compare his claim (https://youtu.be/h1-Y3IzVqdw https://youtu.be/h1-Y3IzVqdw) to the program actually described in his documents (https://theweek.com/articles/463395/nsa-prism-leak-much-less-than-seems https://theweek.com/articles/463395/nsa-prism-leak-much-less...). In that video, he also makes the pants on fire claim that he, as a Sharepoint admin, had the authority to wiretap anybody in America without a court order. To be fair to Snowden, I have no doubt that he actually believed it. He read some documents on the Sharepoint server he administered that he didn't understand and jumped to wild nightmarish conclusions; however, he has stopped making any claims about PRISM (and only ever brings up phone metadata now), so he appears to know that what he claimed was wrong, but I have yet to see him issue a mea culpa.

> The guy has a strong sense of ethics. I continue to be impressed. That seems to be the case in general, but I have to say in this case it doesn’t really require that to decide to take the opportunity to slam dunk on someone when you discover you’ve been scammed into agreeing to be a speaker for their scam. A fairly normal degree of personal desire for retaliation would suffice.

nobodyandproud 6y ago
That’s fair, but normally people either bow out at the last second; or alert the authorities (not sure if it applies here). Maybe I’m more impressed by his hands-on approach to calling someone out. Either way, color me impressed.
IG_Semmelweiss 6y ago
Does it? Seems like hollywood has for ages turned a blind eye to a lot of these issues. I think it takes more than a fairly average predisposition to honesty, to go out out there, and yell fraud when you see fraud. Take this event as an example. If it was so easy to call people out, then you would hear it far more often. Here is a single case, and made it to the top of HN.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > Seems like hollywood has for ages turned a blind eye to a lot of these issues. I think the people recruiting Hollywood figures into these tr things are probably just better at identifying people that don’t really care if its the thing that it says on the tin as long as they get a paycheck; which is why they tend to target past-their-prime figures with money (at least relative to lifestyle) issues.

lern_too_spel 6y ago

Has Snowden ever issued a correction for what he claimed PRISM was? Compare his claim (https://youtu.be/h1-Y3IzVqdw https://youtu.be/h1-Y3IzVqdw) to the program actually described in his documents (https://theweek.com/articles/463395/nsa-prism-leak-much-less-than-seems https://theweek.com/articles/463395/nsa-prism-leak-much-less...). In that video, he also makes the pants on fire claim that he, as a Sharepoint admin, had the authority to wiretap anybody in America without a court order. To be fair to Snowden, I have no doubt that he actually believed it. He read some documents on the Sharepoint server he administered that he didn't understand and jumped to wild nightmarish conclusions; however, he has stopped making any claims about PRISM (and only ever brings up phone metadata now), so he appears to know that what he claimed was wrong, but I have yet to see him issue a mea culpa.