3 ms·

Bitcoin isn't a country. It's ridiculous to compare bitcoin's energy usage to countries because it's international. Video gaming uses more energy than bitcoin m

Bitcoin isn't a country. It's ridiculous to compare bitcoin's energy usage to countries because it's international. Video gaming uses more energy than bitcoin mining, so stop parroting this BS false narrative that bitcoin is so wasteful.

arcticbull 5y ago
> Bitcoin isn't a country. It's ridiculous to compare bitcoin's energy usage to countries because it's international. Video gaming uses more energy than bitcoin mining, so stop parroting this BS false narrative that bitcoin is so wasteful. Your point about video games is pretty asinine because a meaningful portion of the 8 billion people on earth playing video games. We have virtually nobody using Bitcoin because its so incredibly hamstrung. [2] Based on this data [3] playing video games for 4.4 hours a day for an entire year consumes 823kWh. A single bitcoin transaction requires 1127.77kWh. [1]. So you can either play 6 hours of video games on your 3090 in ultra 1440p144Hz - or move 250 bytes of data. Bitcoin's 3TPS currently yields as much CO2 as burning 1 ton of coal per second and generates 10kT of non-recyclable e-waste, which also includes a bunch of gold that has to be mined to make the systems in the first place. [1] All for 3TPS lol. [1] https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption [2] https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/global-gaming-computers-cost-10b-annually-in-energy https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/global-gaming-c... [3] https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/global-gaming-computers-cost-10b-annually-in-energy https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/global-gaming-c...
- billytetrud 5y ago
  > Your point about video games is pretty asinine Well, I would have good points I could write. However, if you're just going to insult me, I'm not going to waste my time.
  - arcticbull 5y ago
    Hm did I offend? If so my bad! Cheers and enjoy your evening. I do however suspect you have no good points to share and hence your exit from this debate. Your point may have been asinine (I do not plan to walk that back) but that says nothing of you, it wasn't a value judgement on the speaker.
    - fock 5y ago
      thanks for switching discourse like this. I think the defining problem of politics (and by extension change) nowadays is that people don't call out antisocial behavior anymore. Nearly every society in the past did this one way or another in the non-autocratic parts (farmers villages, soviet,...). Nowadays we have a system run by psycho- and sociopaths (aka the McKinseyan PMC) and we can't get at them because wokeness-brigade tells us: poor things, don't hurt them...

arcticbull 5y ago

> Bitcoin isn't a country. It's ridiculous to compare bitcoin's energy usage to countries because it's international. Video gaming uses more energy than bitcoin mining, so stop parroting this BS false narrative that bitcoin is so wasteful. Your point about video games is pretty asinine because a meaningful portion of the 8 billion people on earth playing video games. We have virtually nobody using Bitcoin because its so incredibly hamstrung. [2] Based on this data [3] playing video games for 4.4 hours a day for an entire year consumes 823kWh. A single bitcoin transaction requires 1127.77kWh. [1]. So you can either play 6 hours of video games on your 3090 in ultra 1440p144Hz - or move 250 bytes of data. Bitcoin's 3TPS currently yields as much CO2 as burning 1 ton of coal per second and generates 10kT of non-recyclable e-waste, which also includes a bunch of gold that has to be mined to make the systems in the first place. [1] All for 3TPS lol. [1] https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption [2] https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/global-gaming-computers-cost-10b-annually-in-energy https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/global-gaming-c... [3] https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/global-gaming-computers-cost-10b-annually-in-energy https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/global-gaming-c...

billytetrud 5y ago
> Your point about video games is pretty asinine Well, I would have good points I could write. However, if you're just going to insult me, I'm not going to waste my time.
- arcticbull 5y ago
  Hm did I offend? If so my bad! Cheers and enjoy your evening. I do however suspect you have no good points to share and hence your exit from this debate. Your point may have been asinine (I do not plan to walk that back) but that says nothing of you, it wasn't a value judgement on the speaker.
  - fock 5y ago
    thanks for switching discourse like this. I think the defining problem of politics (and by extension change) nowadays is that people don't call out antisocial behavior anymore. Nearly every society in the past did this one way or another in the non-autocratic parts (farmers villages, soviet,...). Nowadays we have a system run by psycho- and sociopaths (aka the McKinseyan PMC) and we can't get at them because wokeness-brigade tells us: poor things, don't hurt them...