5 ms·

> they may take a rash decision that they’d regret later Sorry to be that guy, but: "how?" Our inacceptance of suicide and related concepts is entirely based

by usrusr 5y ago

> they may take a rash decision that they’d regret later Sorry to be that guy, but: "how?" Our inacceptance of suicide and related concepts is entirely based what it does to others

refurb 5y ago
No it’s not solely based off that. It’s also based off our knowledge of people who feel suicidal who later go on to lead happy and productive lives. Assisting every person who feels suicidal is likely to assist in the death of plenty of people who would later have happy lives.
- oleander73 5y ago
  If the people that remain behind are at peace with the decision it doesn't really matter 'what might have been'. Also, taking away the 'easy' option means that a large number of people will do it in a way that is more gruesome and much harder for the people left behind.
  - Brian_K_White 5y ago
    So what? This is unfortunate but in no way implies that a valid response is "might as well just help them instead". That's not better. Hearing someone even present this sort if argument makes me wish I could turn their lack of empathy back on themselves. How about we have psyche tests and anyone who would so lightly let other people die, are killed themselves? Somehow I bet you would say that's immoral and outrageous.
    - oleander73 5y ago
      The psyche test would be great. That way anyone who wants to die only has to take the test.
  - dTal 5y ago
    >If the people that remain behind are at peace with the decision it doesn't really matter 'what might have been'. The problem I have with this is that it also justifies murder. As long as the rest of us are cool with it who cares what the murder-ee thinks?
throw0101a 5y ago
>> they may take a rash decision that they’d regret later > Sorry to be that guy, but: "how?" By surviving the attempt. The suicide success rate is not 100%. Plenty of interviews of people who, after initiating the act, report realizing what they did was a mistake.
- usrusr 5y ago
  Saddest example of selection bias: many people try more than once (and some of course do change their minds eventually)

by usrusr 5y ago

> they may take a rash decision that they’d regret later Sorry to be that guy, but: "how?" Our inacceptance of suicide and related concepts is entirely based what it does to others

refurb 5y ago

No it’s not solely based off that. It’s also based off our knowledge of people who feel suicidal who later go on to lead happy and productive lives. Assisting every person who feels suicidal is likely to assist in the death of plenty of people who would later have happy lives.

oleander73 5y ago
If the people that remain behind are at peace with the decision it doesn't really matter 'what might have been'. Also, taking away the 'easy' option means that a large number of people will do it in a way that is more gruesome and much harder for the people left behind.
- Brian_K_White 5y ago
  So what? This is unfortunate but in no way implies that a valid response is "might as well just help them instead". That's not better. Hearing someone even present this sort if argument makes me wish I could turn their lack of empathy back on themselves. How about we have psyche tests and anyone who would so lightly let other people die, are killed themselves? Somehow I bet you would say that's immoral and outrageous.
  - oleander73 5y ago
    The psyche test would be great. That way anyone who wants to die only has to take the test.
- dTal 5y ago
  >If the people that remain behind are at peace with the decision it doesn't really matter 'what might have been'. The problem I have with this is that it also justifies murder. As long as the rest of us are cool with it who cares what the murder-ee thinks?

throw0101a 5y ago

>> they may take a rash decision that they’d regret later > Sorry to be that guy, but: "how?" By surviving the attempt. The suicide success rate is not 100%. Plenty of interviews of people who, after initiating the act, report realizing what they did was a mistake.

usrusr 5y ago
Saddest example of selection bias: many people try more than once (and some of course do change their minds eventually)