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Its really not that petty. An employee was claiming that it is GENOCIDAL!!! to participate in making fun of a _name_... yet they did it too. Something something

Its really not that petty. An employee was claiming that it is GENOCIDAL!!! to participate in making fun of a _name_... yet they did it too. Something something stones and glass houses no? It is hypocritical and they are mad DHH exposed it. I mean seriously, making fun of names leads to genocide? How dramatic.

ncallaway 5y ago
> I mean seriously, making fun of names leads to genocide? Making fun of names because they are foreign or different? It's a step on the path, yes. It's a long path, with many actions much worse than making fun of names (such as racially motivated killings). But it is a step down that horrific path. > An employee was claiming that it is GENOCIDAL!!! While I can't speak to what was actually said, this statement is false according to the reporting in the article. Nobody was quoted as saying that making fun of names is genocidal, but rather that it contributes to a society where genocide, mass killings, or targeted hate killings are possible. I feel you're attacking a straw-man of the argument, to make it intentionally silly, in an attempt to justify the manager's actions.
- johncronin1420 5y ago
  Most of the names, if they were foreign, were European. Six names were Asian. You can read DHH’s accounting of why he posted the old chat log. It really was not petty.
- grphtrdr 5y ago
  I have an utterly ridiculous name that has been made fun of my whole life. If you think this is a path to genocide then you are just fucking dumb.
  - ncallaway 5y ago
    > I have an utterly ridiculous name that has been made fun of my whole life. I'm sorry to hear that! That sucks. > If you think this is a path to genocide then you are just fucking dumb. I think it's more complicated than just "if a name being mocked, then it is a step on the path to genocide". I would suspect that it is true that for every genocide that has been committed, steps to dehumanize and otherize the target group have first taken place. So, I would argue that mocking names is a _necessary_, but not _sufficient_ condition of a genocide. But, again, that doesn't mean that _every_ instance of a name being mocked fits the context of dehumanizing and otherizing. If you carefully read my comment, you can see that I make a pretty qualified statement: "Making fun of names because they are foreign or different? It's a step on the path, yes". > ...you are just fucking dumb. I don't know why you've taken such an unnecessary rude and antagonistic tone to make your argument. It does _nothing_ to convince me that I might be mistaken. It does nothing to advance the discussion or argument. I hope you treat others better in the future.

ncallaway 5y ago

> I mean seriously, making fun of names leads to genocide? Making fun of names because they are foreign or different? It's a step on the path, yes. It's a long path, with many actions much worse than making fun of names (such as racially motivated killings). But it is a step down that horrific path. > An employee was claiming that it is GENOCIDAL!!! While I can't speak to what was actually said, this statement is false according to the reporting in the article. Nobody was quoted as saying that making fun of names is genocidal, but rather that it contributes to a society where genocide, mass killings, or targeted hate killings are possible. I feel you're attacking a straw-man of the argument, to make it intentionally silly, in an attempt to justify the manager's actions.

johncronin1420 5y ago
Most of the names, if they were foreign, were European. Six names were Asian. You can read DHH’s accounting of why he posted the old chat log. It really was not petty.
grphtrdr 5y ago
I have an utterly ridiculous name that has been made fun of my whole life. If you think this is a path to genocide then you are just fucking dumb.
- ncallaway 5y ago
  > I have an utterly ridiculous name that has been made fun of my whole life. I'm sorry to hear that! That sucks. > If you think this is a path to genocide then you are just fucking dumb. I think it's more complicated than just "if a name being mocked, then it is a step on the path to genocide". I would suspect that it is true that for every genocide that has been committed, steps to dehumanize and otherize the target group have first taken place. So, I would argue that mocking names is a _necessary_, but not _sufficient_ condition of a genocide. But, again, that doesn't mean that _every_ instance of a name being mocked fits the context of dehumanizing and otherizing. If you carefully read my comment, you can see that I make a pretty qualified statement: "Making fun of names because they are foreign or different? It's a step on the path, yes". > ...you are just fucking dumb. I don't know why you've taken such an unnecessary rude and antagonistic tone to make your argument. It does _nothing_ to convince me that I might be mistaken. It does nothing to advance the discussion or argument. I hope you treat others better in the future.