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I don't see any of those things as political (except in the meaningless sense of the word where everything is political) and I don't think that's what they were

I don't see any of those things as political (except in the meaningless sense of the word where everything is political) and I don't think that's what they were talking about banning. If we actually worked at Basecamp we'd just fire off an email to whomever to confirm, but as is I think the best we can go with is a fair reading. To me, Basecamp wasn't banning speech of the form "I can't wait for the kids to be back in person at school. The schools have been closed too long."

anoncake 6y ago
Whether schools open is a decision made by public authorities. How is it not political?
- JW_00000 6y ago
  Discussing whether schools should / should not open is political. Discussing "Schools have closed, what do I do with my kids?" is not.
  - anoncake 6y ago
    I understand "The schools have been closed too long" as "The schools should open again".
enumjorge 6y ago
You’d be surprised at what some people consider political. In some parts of the US acknowledging the severity of the pandemic and admitting to getting vaccinated for covid would be considered political.
- cema 6y ago
  Is it true or is it hearsay? I have not had much contract with remote parts off the country during this period and am not sure.
darkerside 6y ago
That's the problem with a policy like that. It just becomes another cudgel for people in power to arbitrarily decide what people can talk about. Not dissimilar to how everybody speeds so anyone can be pulled over. In the absence of clear policy, it comes back to trust, which needs to be earned and can be lost. I don't work at Basecamp, so I don't know whether they "deserved" to lose trust and my opinion doesn't really matter. But the evidence appears to show that trust was dead, whoever killed it.
- cercatrova 6y ago
  Yes, it is their company, they can run it as they please. How is that controversial? They have power, and they wield that power as they wish. If people don't like it, they can wield their own power to leave and find a new job as well, especially with 6 months of severance.
  - darkerside 6y ago
    Well, they did. I don't know why others find it controversial, but I do because I see a lot of destroyed value here, mostly over what I consider a failure of empathy and understanding. We all saw what happened, and we're talking about it because most of us think things could have gone a little better.

anoncake 6y ago

Whether schools open is a decision made by public authorities. How is it not political?

JW_00000 6y ago
Discussing whether schools should / should not open is political. Discussing "Schools have closed, what do I do with my kids?" is not.
- anoncake 6y ago
  I understand "The schools have been closed too long" as "The schools should open again".

enumjorge 6y ago

You’d be surprised at what some people consider political. In some parts of the US acknowledging the severity of the pandemic and admitting to getting vaccinated for covid would be considered political.

cema 6y ago
Is it true or is it hearsay? I have not had much contract with remote parts off the country during this period and am not sure.

darkerside 6y ago

That's the problem with a policy like that. It just becomes another cudgel for people in power to arbitrarily decide what people can talk about. Not dissimilar to how everybody speeds so anyone can be pulled over. In the absence of clear policy, it comes back to trust, which needs to be earned and can be lost. I don't work at Basecamp, so I don't know whether they "deserved" to lose trust and my opinion doesn't really matter. But the evidence appears to show that trust was dead, whoever killed it.

cercatrova 6y ago
Yes, it is their company, they can run it as they please. How is that controversial? They have power, and they wield that power as they wish. If people don't like it, they can wield their own power to leave and find a new job as well, especially with 6 months of severance.
- darkerside 6y ago
  Well, they did. I don't know why others find it controversial, but I do because I see a lot of destroyed value here, mostly over what I consider a failure of empathy and understanding. We all saw what happened, and we're talking about it because most of us think things could have gone a little better.