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I don't know what I find more annoying; the ridiculous US copyright system that allows people to copyright almost 'anything'... or the unfathomably stupid peopl

I don't know what I find more annoying; the ridiculous US copyright system that allows people to copyright almost 'anything'... or the unfathomably stupid people employed by the likes of Amazon, YouTube et al whose policies seem to be "Ban first. Ask questions later... Bu let's not bother with the questions" It doesn't surprise me that a 200 years dead composer's works are considered subject to copyright when, apparently, even referring to the name of a 1200 year old mediaeval manuscript violates copyright: https://stiobhart.net/2021-04-8-bubble-trouble/ https://stiobhart.net/2021-04-8-bubble-trouble/

Iv 6y ago
The policies are directly caused by the laws. If google does not react swiftly, it is considered guilty of copyright infringement. Remove the laws, the policies are instantly removes as well.
- masklinn 6y ago
  Exactly. Benefiting from Safe Harbor provisions is usually predicated on taking the claimant at their word and implementing restrictions as fast as possible. No such requirements exist on the release side. Therefore it is no surprise that platform policies will heavily favor claimants, that is very strong incentivised if not an explicit requirement.
- Normille 6y ago
  >If google does not react swiftly, it is considered guilty of copyright infringement. Only if a copyright infringement has actually taken place. The problem is that none of these companies ever apply a gramme of logic or examine the merits of the claim, when someone cries 'copyright infringement'. They just automatically remove the 'offending' article and refuse to countenance any counter-arguments from the person accused. It's this supine attitude which, I reckon, is fuelling all these ridiculous claims. I just wish that the likes of Amazon, Google, YouTube, RedBubble... etc. would call the copyright trolls' bluff occasionally and not just instantly cave. Every. Single. Time.
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > The problem is that none of these companies ever apply a gramme of logic or examine the merits of the claim True, but, TBF, evaluating merits doesn’t scale, the authors of the safe harbor provision knew this, and this is exactly the outcome the law intended, though it does not mandate it.
wheybags 6y ago
I studied there. When I got to the start of the long winded official name, I actually said "oh no" out loud to myself :(

Iv 6y ago

The policies are directly caused by the laws. If google does not react swiftly, it is considered guilty of copyright infringement. Remove the laws, the policies are instantly removes as well.

masklinn 6y ago
Exactly. Benefiting from Safe Harbor provisions is usually predicated on taking the claimant at their word and implementing restrictions as fast as possible. No such requirements exist on the release side. Therefore it is no surprise that platform policies will heavily favor claimants, that is very strong incentivised if not an explicit requirement.
Normille 6y ago
>If google does not react swiftly, it is considered guilty of copyright infringement. Only if a copyright infringement has actually taken place. The problem is that none of these companies ever apply a gramme of logic or examine the merits of the claim, when someone cries 'copyright infringement'. They just automatically remove the 'offending' article and refuse to countenance any counter-arguments from the person accused. It's this supine attitude which, I reckon, is fuelling all these ridiculous claims. I just wish that the likes of Amazon, Google, YouTube, RedBubble... etc. would call the copyright trolls' bluff occasionally and not just instantly cave. Every. Single. Time.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > The problem is that none of these companies ever apply a gramme of logic or examine the merits of the claim True, but, TBF, evaluating merits doesn’t scale, the authors of the safe harbor provision knew this, and this is exactly the outcome the law intended, though it does not mandate it.

wheybags 6y ago

I studied there. When I got to the start of the long winded official name, I actually said "oh no" out loud to myself :(