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This problem is partially solved by DMARC/SPF/DKIM. There a few issues with DMARC, but the main one - adoption by senders is well below 100% so you just cannot
by citrin_ru 6y ago
This problem is partially solved by DMARC/SPF/DKIM. There a few issues with DMARC, but the main one - adoption by senders is well below 100% so you just cannot block mail without DMARC.
But the main question I have - does a typical mail users actually care about sender domain? I suspect - not at all. And I see two main reasons for this. First notion of domain is de-emphasized everywhere - browsers turned address bar into a search bar and make real URL hard to notice, MUA (e. g. Outlook) don't show full email for senders in an address book. Second problem - legitimate senders often behave in exactly the same way as phishers - use unrelated/unknown domain and give no way to verify that the domain is legitimate. For example Charter/Sirius ISP sends mail from domain customeremailnotifications.com [1] and I found no ways to see for sure that is domain is owned or used by Charter. My memory is fuzzy, but PayPal (or ebay) AFAIR used a phishy domain too, something like managemypaypal.com. A largish ZA utility sends mail from eskomstatements.co.za having the main domain eskom.co.za and of course there is no good way to verify that both domains owned/used by the same company. List can be continued. All this conditions users to trust mail which is coming from a random-domain-registered-by-phishers, because legitimate senders do the same.
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Spectrum/comments/dfpres/email_domain_customeremailnotificationscom_for/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Spectrum/comments/dfpres/email_doma... (1 year old, but situation hasn't changed a bit)
- naturalauction 6y ago>There a few issues with DMARC, but the main one - adoption by senders is well below 100% so you just cannot block mail without DMARC. I wonder if this could be fixed by email clients marking emails that fail DKIM as spam/attaching a large warning. Most users use email clients and they really don't do a great job of notify users of potential spoofing issues (with Gmail, you have to find "view original" to see that DKIM fails). I'm sure that spam filters would notice after a few hundred/thousand emails, but a successful spear-phishing attempt may not require that many emails. If customers complain about legitimate emails being marked as actually fraudulent, I'm sure adoption rates will increase.
- networkimprov 6y agoMy understanding is that most phishing attacks are launched from webmail accounts, which implement DMARC.
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