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Exactly this. Graphics like this serve to educated about how an environment tolerant of small things can eventually become tolerant of bigger things, and then m

Exactly this. Graphics like this serve to educated about how an environment tolerant of small things can eventually become tolerant of bigger things, and then much bigger things, and that's why it's important to pay attention to the small things. The employee wasn't accusing anyone of supporting genocide, even though DHH clearly took it personally.

extra88 5y ago
> an environment tolerant of small things can eventually become tolerant of bigger things, and then much bigger things, and that's why it's important to pay attention to the small things. Huh, sounds like the "broken windows" theory of policing. Did not expect that. The list was clearly unprofessional and made some people uncomfortable, that is enough for it to be gone. It would be worthwhile to discuss explicitly what was wrong with the list, opening people's eyes to perspectives they hadn't considered and to take a little time to foster shared ideals for the workplace culture. Even alluding to genocide is wildly over the top and I can understand if it offended some people, regardless of whether they had anything to do with the list.
fighterpilot 5y ago
Ok, but how is that relevant to making Basecamp better? If he's disavowed and apologized for the list then this genocide point is just a big waste of time and a distraction. I can't see how it would achieve anything productive.
- corinroyal 5y ago
  I'm not surprised you don't see the point. But then you probably aren't the subject of racist microaggressions in the workplace.
  - fighterpilot 5y ago
    I do see the point, it's an argument that there exists a plausible slippery slope from (allegedly) quasi-racist jokes to genocide. I just think it's sanctimonious, a total waste of time and a distraction to throw such incendiary and flamebait things out into the workplace's communication channels, especially if it's been apologized for already.

extra88 5y ago

> an environment tolerant of small things can eventually become tolerant of bigger things, and then much bigger things, and that's why it's important to pay attention to the small things. Huh, sounds like the "broken windows" theory of policing. Did not expect that. The list was clearly unprofessional and made some people uncomfortable, that is enough for it to be gone. It would be worthwhile to discuss explicitly what was wrong with the list, opening people's eyes to perspectives they hadn't considered and to take a little time to foster shared ideals for the workplace culture. Even alluding to genocide is wildly over the top and I can understand if it offended some people, regardless of whether they had anything to do with the list.

fighterpilot 5y ago

Ok, but how is that relevant to making Basecamp better? If he's disavowed and apologized for the list then this genocide point is just a big waste of time and a distraction. I can't see how it would achieve anything productive.

corinroyal 5y ago
I'm not surprised you don't see the point. But then you probably aren't the subject of racist microaggressions in the workplace.
- fighterpilot 5y ago
  I do see the point, it's an argument that there exists a plausible slippery slope from (allegedly) quasi-racist jokes to genocide. I just think it's sanctimonious, a total waste of time and a distraction to throw such incendiary and flamebait things out into the workplace's communication channels, especially if it's been apologized for already.