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> ... someone up who left their last job because they couldn't agree to stop bitching about politics on the company dime? I don't see how demonstrating the ina

> ... someone up who left their last job because they couldn't agree to stop bitching about politics on the company dime? I don't see how demonstrating the inability to follow basic company rules in the interest of productivity improves their career prospects. Exactly. These didn't use to have to be rules -- it was simply part of Professionalism and social courtesy. That wasn't that long ago, it seems.

andrewingram 5y ago
It's not 0%, but I spend a negligible amount of company time talking about political issues. I also don't have a particular desire to. Nonetheless, if something of a political nature did come up, either as a distraction that was affecting my colleagues (e.g. they're part of a minoritized group, or empathetic to one, and something is going on), or something the company was doing was at odds with my own political values; I would hope the company would accommodate the need for _some_ level of discussion. An outright ban ala Coinbase, and now Basecamp, would send an extremely troubling message - and would prompt me to begin the motions of seeking employment elsewhere. A generous severance package would make it a much easier decision.
8note 5y ago
I'd say it'sa new union topic. Employers need to start worrying about what political opinions they are lobbying for, and what their employees want them to be lobbying for. Corporate lobbying is going to stop just being for the owners
- lazyasciiart 5y ago
  I bet unions are a political topic, along with how much your co-workers are being paid.
  - vageli 5y ago
    I wonder if there have been court cases for this; is slack considered a non-work area for, say, the purposes of discussing unionization? Would a DM between two people mediated through the company slack be a non-work area? Though generally, it seems this kind of ban (of union discussion or pay) would be unlawful in the US, > For example, your employer cannot prohibit you from talking about the union during working time if it permits you to talk about other non-work-related matters during working time. https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/employees/your-rights-during-union-organizing https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/em...

andrewingram 5y ago

It's not 0%, but I spend a negligible amount of company time talking about political issues. I also don't have a particular desire to. Nonetheless, if something of a political nature did come up, either as a distraction that was affecting my colleagues (e.g. they're part of a minoritized group, or empathetic to one, and something is going on), or something the company was doing was at odds with my own political values; I would hope the company would accommodate the need for _some_ level of discussion. An outright ban ala Coinbase, and now Basecamp, would send an extremely troubling message - and would prompt me to begin the motions of seeking employment elsewhere. A generous severance package would make it a much easier decision.

8note 5y ago

I'd say it'sa new union topic. Employers need to start worrying about what political opinions they are lobbying for, and what their employees want them to be lobbying for. Corporate lobbying is going to stop just being for the owners

lazyasciiart 5y ago
I bet unions are a political topic, along with how much your co-workers are being paid.
- vageli 5y ago
  I wonder if there have been court cases for this; is slack considered a non-work area for, say, the purposes of discussing unionization? Would a DM between two people mediated through the company slack be a non-work area? Though generally, it seems this kind of ban (of union discussion or pay) would be unlawful in the US, > For example, your employer cannot prohibit you from talking about the union during working time if it permits you to talk about other non-work-related matters during working time. https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/employees/your-rights-during-union-organizing https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/em...