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I laud them for standing up for their ideals. That said, as a conservative, I don't ever "bring my whole self to work", even if my employer says to, because (a

I laud them for standing up for their ideals. That said, as a conservative, I don't ever "bring my whole self to work", even if my employer says to, because (a) I know my personal views are not welcome in the Bay Area, and (b) I think it's concerning that many companies are trying to become more than just a place to work on interesting stuff and get paid for your work. They must now make political views known that align with those of their employees as if to be one of the tribe. I have my own tribe, consisting of my family and friends, and they won't fire me when the economy goes south.

shostack 5y ago
I'm curious, what conservative views do you hold that you think would make you so incompatible?
- draw_down 5y ago
  Come on
- xerxesaa 5y ago
  I don't think it would be that difficult to imagine such topics. For example, supporting the border wall, or being against gender reassignment for minors, or believing biology has an impact on career choices on average, or being against race/gender as part of the selection process at universities, or being in favor of the ar15 being available for legal purchase, or believing IDs should be mandatory to vote. There are any number of topics where it's only safe to discuss one side of the issue at most bay area tech companies. I'm not taking a side on these issues. I am simply recognizing that it's the case they cannot really be openly debated.
- majani 5y ago
  Not OP, but small government principles, religious morals and being in favor of the government's defense functions are conservative views that are definitely not welcome in most parts of the Bay.
  - gizmo385 5y ago
    > religious morals Mind expanding on this? I'm quite liberal and don't personally care what you base your morals on, so long as they don't result in, for example, you denying the lived experience of LGBT people in this country.
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- wreath 5y ago
  Even freedom of speech became associated with "right wing" political views..
sneak 5y ago
I'm not conservative and have only a small fraction of conservative-adjacent viewpoints and opinions, and I am not welcome in certain Bay Area companies (backchannel fact, not speculation) due to having a little cokebottle sliver of Venn diagram overlap with (some of some) conservatives' personal opinions. All of this is precisely 0% to do with the work, mind you. It's entirely philosophical viewpoint discrimination. It's a real thing that's happening there.

shostack 5y ago

I'm curious, what conservative views do you hold that you think would make you so incompatible?

draw_down 5y ago
Come on
xerxesaa 5y ago
I don't think it would be that difficult to imagine such topics. For example, supporting the border wall, or being against gender reassignment for minors, or believing biology has an impact on career choices on average, or being against race/gender as part of the selection process at universities, or being in favor of the ar15 being available for legal purchase, or believing IDs should be mandatory to vote. There are any number of topics where it's only safe to discuss one side of the issue at most bay area tech companies. I'm not taking a side on these issues. I am simply recognizing that it's the case they cannot really be openly debated.
majani 5y ago
Not OP, but small government principles, religious morals and being in favor of the government's defense functions are conservative views that are definitely not welcome in most parts of the Bay.
- gizmo385 5y ago
  > religious morals Mind expanding on this? I'm quite liberal and don't personally care what you base your morals on, so long as they don't result in, for example, you denying the lived experience of LGBT people in this country.
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wreath 5y ago
Even freedom of speech became associated with "right wing" political views..

sneak 5y ago

I'm not conservative and have only a small fraction of conservative-adjacent viewpoints and opinions, and I am not welcome in certain Bay Area companies (backchannel fact, not speculation) due to having a little cokebottle sliver of Venn diagram overlap with (some of some) conservatives' personal opinions. All of this is precisely 0% to do with the work, mind you. It's entirely philosophical viewpoint discrimination. It's a real thing that's happening there.