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Let's get Right to Repair passed

69 points by trevcanhuman 5y ago

threatofrain 5y ago
Near equivalent to me would be right to fixed price repairs. That would allow the customer to better estimate the total cost of ownership. I think it's a worthy alternative because repair is only going to get harder with components becoming miniaturized and unified.
- alexanderdmitri 5y ago
  i feel like the market would keep the repair cost sane if the component availability and pricing were guaranteed in certain ways. for example, i think it's be a good rule that component parts must be sold at a price where the sum of the part prices cannot exceed the retail value of the assembled product. something like this could have other benefits outside of just this issue.
- jeppesen-io 5y ago
  This is bigger than money It's about farmers tractors not being DRMed so parts can't be replaced It's when apple says you need an entire lid replaced when all it needs is a new ribbon cable Fixed prices are not helpful when you don't have the ability for 3rd parties to push back on those claims
  - antisthenes 5y ago
    It's even bigger than that. Companies whose business models depend on planned obsolescence and proprietary service/repair lock-ins are an absolute net drain on society as a whole. Monopoly power granted by such business practice results in furthering of extractive capitalism as the norm and provides no additional value to society, only to the corporation in question. This allows them to spend their extra cash not on productive endeavors, but on ensuring regulatory capture and cementing their "too big to fail" status.
    - mimsee 5y ago
      This. Check out the recent news on why McDonalds ice cream machines tend to fail. https://youtu.be/SrDEtSlqJC4 https://youtu.be/SrDEtSlqJC4 Spoiler: it’s because the machine is broken and only one authorized company is allowed to fix it
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- Proven 5y ago
  That's hilarious. How about free everything for everyone? Would that help you even better? > That would allow the customer to better estimate the total cost of ownership. That's exactly what bundled manufacturer warranty and service terms do.
joshspankit 5y ago
I’m also thinking we need to create protected definitions around the words “buy” and “purchase” so that manufacturers have to say “license” right on the buy button.

69 points by trevcanhuman 5y ago

Near equivalent to me would be right to fixed price repairs. That would allow the customer to better estimate the total cost of ownership. I think it's a worthy alternative because repair is only going to get harder with components becoming miniaturized and unified.

alexanderdmitri 5y ago
i feel like the market would keep the repair cost sane if the component availability and pricing were guaranteed in certain ways. for example, i think it's be a good rule that component parts must be sold at a price where the sum of the part prices cannot exceed the retail value of the assembled product. something like this could have other benefits outside of just this issue.
jeppesen-io 5y ago
This is bigger than money It's about farmers tractors not being DRMed so parts can't be replaced It's when apple says you need an entire lid replaced when all it needs is a new ribbon cable Fixed prices are not helpful when you don't have the ability for 3rd parties to push back on those claims
- antisthenes 5y ago
  It's even bigger than that. Companies whose business models depend on planned obsolescence and proprietary service/repair lock-ins are an absolute net drain on society as a whole. Monopoly power granted by such business practice results in furthering of extractive capitalism as the norm and provides no additional value to society, only to the corporation in question. This allows them to spend their extra cash not on productive endeavors, but on ensuring regulatory capture and cementing their "too big to fail" status.
  - mimsee 5y ago
    This. Check out the recent news on why McDonalds ice cream machines tend to fail. https://youtu.be/SrDEtSlqJC4 https://youtu.be/SrDEtSlqJC4 Spoiler: it’s because the machine is broken and only one authorized company is allowed to fix it
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Proven 5y ago
That's hilarious. How about free everything for everyone? Would that help you even better? > That would allow the customer to better estimate the total cost of ownership. That's exactly what bundled manufacturer warranty and service terms do.

joshspankit 5y ago

I’m also thinking we need to create protected definitions around the words “buy” and “purchase” so that manufacturers have to say “license” right on the buy button.