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I've noticed a lot of rather wishful thinking here and on Twitter along the lines of that the people who left are all woke layabouts or whatever and that this i

I've noticed a lot of rather wishful thinking here and on Twitter along the lines of that the people who left are all woke layabouts or whatever and that this is some genius management move. No explanation of how to reconcile these ideas with the fact that so many of these people who left were in leadership positions.

alistairSH 5y ago
I dunno. I could find a job in a few days or weeks. But, finding a job I want to do for many years probably takes a significant portion of that 6 month period. Now, if I was already half-way out the door? Or also felt strongly about the no-politics stuff? You bet I'm taking the money and not looking back.
- reboog711 5y ago
  It usually takes me years to find a job I want. That is why I'm always looking.
- Semiapies 5y ago
  I believe you. But I also assume you're not dead weight your employer would be better off without. However, dead weight is what a lot of commentators online claim to think the departed employees were--and that Basecamp cleverly rid itself of them today--without any real evidence for these bold ideas.
  - fastball 5y ago
    You're combining like three different narratives together.
- lazyasciiart 5y ago
  If any significant percentage of a tiny company like this was halfway out the door, that's also a sign of management failure.
  - MattGaiser 5y ago
    Isn’t this true in tech in general as turnover is so high? At any given point, half of software engineers are at least contemplating leaving.
spamizbad 5y ago
Lots of people believe in the Just World Fallacy[1]. Everyone who disagrees with me is incompetent, and everyone who agrees with me is highly skilled. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis
- kortilla 5y ago
  >Everyone who disagrees with me is incompetent, and everyone who agrees with me is highly skilled. You do know that’s not the just world fallacy at all, right? You might be thinking of the fundamental attribution error...

alistairSH 5y ago

I dunno. I could find a job in a few days or weeks. But, finding a job I want to do for many years probably takes a significant portion of that 6 month period. Now, if I was already half-way out the door? Or also felt strongly about the no-politics stuff? You bet I'm taking the money and not looking back.

reboog711 5y ago
It usually takes me years to find a job I want. That is why I'm always looking.
Semiapies 5y ago
I believe you. But I also assume you're not dead weight your employer would be better off without. However, dead weight is what a lot of commentators online claim to think the departed employees were--and that Basecamp cleverly rid itself of them today--without any real evidence for these bold ideas.
- fastball 5y ago
  You're combining like three different narratives together.
lazyasciiart 5y ago
If any significant percentage of a tiny company like this was halfway out the door, that's also a sign of management failure.
- MattGaiser 5y ago
  Isn’t this true in tech in general as turnover is so high? At any given point, half of software engineers are at least contemplating leaving.

spamizbad 5y ago

Lots of people believe in the Just World Fallacy[1]. Everyone who disagrees with me is incompetent, and everyone who agrees with me is highly skilled. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis

kortilla 5y ago
>Everyone who disagrees with me is incompetent, and everyone who agrees with me is highly skilled. You do know that’s not the just world fallacy at all, right? You might be thinking of the fundamental attribution error...